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RIGHT-CLICK THE MUSIC
NOTES so that while you are viewing this page,
you will be entertained by hearing the 1929 "Put
and Take" jazz-swing musical composition
performed by Joe Venuti's Blue Four, Eddie Lang on guitar.
(Click here
for more information about the musical piece.)Equally good is this delightful ditty (lyrics and instrumentals), "Put and Take," sung here by Harry Fay. More on Fay's song below. |
| Click
here to see my web page: Put & Take Historical
Timeline in Pictures. |
| 1. Introduction and history |
| What is a Put & Take? Basic
Rules and Spinners Players ante into a pot and take turns
spinning the top. Any number of players may play.
If the top lands with T1 showing (or "take one"),
T2 or T3, the player who spun it would
win (take) 1, 2 or 3 chips, respectively,
from the pot. If it
landed with the star or “Take All” showing,
he would take all the chips from the
pot.
If it landed P1 (or "put one"), P2 or P3, he
would lose (put) 1, 2 or
3 of his chips, respectively, into
the pot. If it landed "0" or “Put All”
or “All Put,” each player would contribute one chip to the
pot. The top would pass to the next player after each spin. (There
are many rule variations. For example, "Put All" could mean that
the spinner matches the pot!) ..... ... Put & Takes were usually
about 1-1/8" long and made of brass, like the three tops shown below.
|
6-sided tops, like the one at
the left, are much more common than 8-sided ones. The
commands on the six sides are usually in words. And
to read the words, you hold the top sideways. The commands
are usually: take all, all put, take two, put one, take one, and
put two. |
8-sided tops, like the two typical
ones on the left, have smaller sides than the 6-sided ones so
the commands are in single letters, numerals, and symbols such
as stars (*) and zeros (0). To read them, you hold the top upright.The one on the far left has these outcomes on the 8 sides: * (star means take all), T3, P1, T2, 0 (zero means all put), P3, T1, and P4. The one on the near left has these sides: TA (take all), P3, T2, P1, AP (all put), T3, P2, T1. |
| Origins and brief
history. Put and Take is
one of many forms of Teetotums (any
gaming spinning top). The Teetotums
were known in ancient Greece, and the Dreidel
(put and take instructions on the four-sided
spinner) was developed in 16th century Germany.
According to the Encyclopedia Britannica article
on teetotums, "the
hexagonal (six-sided) teetotum was known
to the ancient Greeks and Romans." The earliest
teetotums were used as a substitute for dice,
especially useful in board games. Put & Take
tops, like the standard brass one pictured just
above, originated
in America
and were very popular from the early
20th century to about the 1940’s. They
could be carried in ones pocket and
used anytime in a bar, army barracks or other
gathering place for an impromptu gambling
session. Each player would contribute
chips, coins or currency to a pot. (Origins timeline
here.)
One dictionary
gives 1920-25 as the period for the origin of the term "put
and take." An Australian
gambling-related web
site says, "the Western world’s game of
put-and-take [is] rarely encountered since
the 1930s. ... I suspect that the reason
for the ... disappearance ... from the English and American
gambling scene is that too many loaded tops were being
used. In other words, there was a great deal too much
putting by novices and taking by cheats." So the
heyday of Put and Takes was the 1920s and 30s. There
is the 1921 silent
movie "Put and Take", a 1921 "Put and
Take" Broadway show and song,
at least five American patents regarding
Put and Take taken out between 1920 and 1940, and
even a 1929 "Put and
Take" jazz swing composition.
(Today, there is a casino
game "Put and Take" that uses playing cards instead of a
spinner!; here
and here too.
Today, there are also grifters hustling people with crooked
Put & Take dice, as reported here. And of
course, there are virtual Put & Take
aps where you can design your own game; here
too. Now-a-days there are too many
manifestations of Put & Takes games and rules to mention
on this page, which is dedicated to vintage items.) Links to history of teetotums and Put & Takes. Here are some informative links on the subject of Put and Takes: ¶ Wikipedia Teetotum article . It gives the Latin abbreviations on the sides of teetotums. ¶ Waterloo Univ. ELLIOTT AVEDON VIRTUAL MUSEUM OF GAMES: Dreidel - Put & Take - Teetotum . ¶ Game: TEETOTUM -- (Detail from Brueghel's Painting) . ¶ The Chanukah Dreidel (Dreidle) . Here too for dreidel information. And here. Links to other Put & Take collections: ¶ Marianne Jager . ¶ ARJAN VERWEIJ: click here, here, and here. ¶ Maxim . Also here. ¶ Justin Michell ¶ Kevin Cook YouTube videos about Put & Takes and other spinning tops: ¶ fine 7.5 minute video showing wide variety of tops and spinners, even a few Put & Takes. ¶ cheating/hustling with Put & Take dice. ¶ app for iPhone/iPod to put your own sides/commands on a digital spinner, thus making your own game. ¶ 3-year-old boy playing with a spinning top. ¶ short video of a bi-level Crown & Anchor spinner in action. ¶ jazz-swing music: 1929 "Put and Take" composition performed by Joe Venuti's Blue Four. ¶ 15 second video -- Self-made teetotum for kids; neat toy spinner. ¶ showing hand machining of modern tops. Rules of Play. Players ante into a pot and take turns spinning the top. If it landed T1, T2 or T3, the player who spun it would win (take) 1, 2 or 3 chips, respectively, from the pot. If it landed with the star or “Take All” showing, he would take all the chips from the pot. If it landed P1, P2 or P3, he would lose (put) 1, 2 or 3 of his chips, respectively, into the pot. If it landed "0" or “Put All” or “All Put,” he would have to match the pot (the rule given in John Scarne's "Scarne on Dice.") or lose all his chips or each player would have to contribute to the pot, depending on the rules. I have one set of rules where a land on "0" would mean just that the top passes to the next person. By far, the most common rule is for all the players to add one chip to the pot if "O", "All Put," etc. lands face up. Source of pictures of spinners for this page. In the pictures below are some of the over 100 Put and Takes in my collection, plus some horse racing and dice tops. Also included are many put and takes that I do not own, pictures taken from eBay listings. Make your own Put & Take out of cardboard. Look here, here and here, from a site about Spanish language put and takes. You can improve/restore the spinning ability of tops. Look here 1921 New York Times news story of Women's Christian Temperance Union denouncing Put and Takes by name. 1921 Illustrated London News article -- a full page picture and article entitled "PUT AND TAKE CRAZE : A SUBSITUTE FOR PITCH AND TOSS." It says there that "Put and Take ... is a new game from America"! 1921 "Ripley's Believe or Not" column on current Put & Take rage -- it had some wrong historical information, but said, "Of course you play that new game of the spinning top called Put and Take? It is the newest and latest craze to tempt our gambling instinct, and is all the rage all over the country. Well, you will be surprised to know that it is one of the very oldest games in the world." To see it, click here and here. |
| Pictured above
are the most common type
of Put and Takes. They
were usually
small, about an
inch high, and made of
brass. They can be distinguished
from each other in
a variety of ways, as is apparent
on this page. ¶ 6-sided ones: groups (bags) "5" and "7," above, are 6-sided tops, and as such invariably have words on the sides and must be read with the top lying on its side -- the words are lined up with the stem of the put and take top (go in the same direction as/are parallel to the length of the stem) . These invariably have words (like "put two") on the sides, not short-hand "P2", "T1," etc. ¶ 8-sided ones: groups "2", "4" and "6" above are 8-sided tops, and as such invariably do not have full words on the sides, just a letter, star and/or number, and to view/read them, you must hold the top upright. I have never seen an 8-sided one with words on the sides, just T1, TA, P2, etc.... ... .... I find that the 6-sided ones are more common than the 8-sided ones. ¶ bi-level: in group "1" and "3" the tops are "bi-level." That is, there are two independently moving parts. In "1" the P's and T's are on the top level and the amounts (1, 2, 3, etc.) are on the lower level. Also in "1," some of the tops represent two dice. In group "3," generally the pay-off odds are indicated in the top level, and the name of a horse is on the bottom level; the horse-betting ones have the name of famous race horses and were copyrighted in the 1920's. ¶ serifs: in groups "4" and "5," the letters have no serifs (those short, fancy hanging lines at the ends of the letters, like the letter "T" here), while in groups "2" and "7" there are serifs. ¶ The tops in group "6" are made of sterling. ¶ The tops in "2", "4" and "6" are 8-sided. The others are 6-sided. |
| These are other
miscellaneous
metal Put
and Takes. A number
of them are sterling.
Note
the different sizes. One
near the upper left
is a pin. The dark one
near the upper right is
a cube-shaped metal
Put and Take. Just
below it is a 4-sided top.
The two at the lower right and lower
left have internal spinning
dials. The
reddish one near the top has
a needle and thread inside. |
| These Put and Takes
are non-metal. About
half are made
of catalin;
others bone, wood,
celluloid and ordinary
plastic. Some
are bi-level. Three
of them are mechanical
lead pencils that
are to be rolled for the
Put and Take effect. Two
of the tops are celluloid
advertising pieces -- one
touts Manbeck's Bread
("A winner everywhere");
the other says "You don't gamble
when you buy Trenton Crackers."
The
white 4-sided one at the bottom
is made of ivory. The
one next to it is 4-sided wood.
The red one next to it is
plastic with a compartment for
solid perfume. |
| Earliest 6-sided Put and
Take I know of -- pictured above
-- 18th-19th century, per auction house.
I thank Marianne Jager, of
the Netherlands, for the above picture of
her ancient Put and Take spinner and the following
informatrion. She says,
"In the Netherlands 18th –19th century they
made spinners from silver, like in the
picture. The letters and text are old Dutch.
Lengh 3.2 cm, weight 6.8 gram "The letters on each of the 6 sides: A - only take B - to pay N - nothing to take T - take D - double put S – put." She adds, "The letters on the sides are difficult to read, old fashioned Dutch," so she is giving an approximate translation. "Anyway, the letters stand for put and take, inclusive: nothing (spin again?) and double.... , like the spinners we all know. That much is for sure." In a reference work, she found, "... about women in the beginning of the 18th century ... had little games ... . Spinning with the a-al-top was one of the games. The top has 6 letters: A (al = take all), B (bij = add?), S (set=put), T (trek= take), D (dubbel=double) and N (niet=not, nothing)." None of this should be surprising, what with the Teetotum gambling top being known in ancient Greece and the Dreidel (put and take instructions on the four-sided spinner) being developed in 16th century Germany -- source here . |
|
"The Put and
Take Craze: A Substitute
For "Pitch and Toss" -- a page in the December 10, 1921 "Illustrated London News." Click here to read an enlargement of the text at the bottom of that page. One of the most surprising (to me) things said there is: "'Put and Take' .... is a new game from America that has captured London." The text there says: "With a scout ready to cry “copper!” [policeman] – boys in a pavement, gamble with a “put and take”(or, “sanfarian”) top (shown here, actual size [on that Illustrated London News page]).So if the game was also known as Sanfarian (a word of French derivation) in the UK, and is of American origin, it likely migrated to the U.K. through British WW I troops. |
| This is the
only movie lobby card
I know of that shows a put and take,
and two put & takes are shown on the lobby
card! The lobby card is from the
1922 silent film, "Forsaking
All Others." Below the lobby card I show an
enlarged close-up of the spinners. Nothing can be read
from the lower left (white) put and
take, but the upper right one's two sides
can be read. You can read them
too if you look close -- "TAKE ALL" and "PUT
3." |
| These are combination
games that include
Put and Take (also called
Plus
and Minus on one).
The bottom one
is made of wood. It
is, among other things,
a roulette wheel.
It is 14" in diameter,
was copyrighted 1933
by the Cardinal Co.,
Dallas, Texas. |
| Some of the
collection of Marianne Jager of the
Netherlands, picture sent
to me in June 2012. |
| Put and Take Collections and Collectors |
|
Click the picture on the left
to see the enlarged picture of part of the put and take
collection of Barrie M. of Wales, UK. -- 52 spinners! |
|
Click the picture
on the left to see the enlarged picture of part of the
put and take collection of Marianne Jager of the Netherlands.
-- 78 spinners! .... . Click
here to see more of her Put & Takes at her collection
web page. .... Click here
to see all of Marianne's metal spinning tops as of April 2013. |
|
Click the picture on the
left to see the enlarged picture of the 350 put & take-spinners-perinolas collection, as of December 2012, of Enrique Orschanski, from Cordoba, Argentina. |
| 2. Put
and Takes
-- English language, vintage (click here to be directed to that separate page) |
| 3. Put
and Takes
-- Non-English language, vintage (click here to be directed to that separate page) |
| 4. Bi-level Spnners: all types, all languages |
| Crown and Anchor put and take top.
I now own one of these. The one pictured above was sold on eBay
in June 2006 for $254. Seller was from United Kingdom.
The description said in part, "This is a vintage 6-sided brass spinner (or wobbler).It looks similar to a 'Put & Take' spinner, but is in two sections - the top section can be spun independently to the bottom part. The top part has numbers (1, 7, 2, 5, 3, 9). The bottom part has card suits (heart, spade, club and diamond) plus a crown and an anchor. On the top has 'Patent 33471.' It measures approx 1.25" I later acquired one in 2006 for about $100 in a private sale. They are rather small -- about 1-1/4" high and about 1/2" wide. The top (odds) part moves rather freely. I learned that it takes a certain technique to get it to spin properly. At first I thought it would never spin. Then I got it to spin properly about 1 time in 15. Finally, I found the technique: you have to (1) press it down firmly against the surface, (2) make sure it is upright; and (3) then twist it. It spins for quite a long time. |
| More neat bi-level
ones. Left: Looks like
the bottom, at least,
is made of a type of plastic.
Right: seller says,
"Celluloid Put & Take Teetotum
Gambling Top - 1920's. This
is a really nice old celluloid Put and Take teetotum
featuring famous horses of the 1920's.
The horses depicted are Man O’ War, Spark
Plug, Zev, Colin, Greylag and Morvich.
The top has six sides and a separately rotating
top portion with the odds on it (1-1, 2-1,
3-1, 5-1, 4-1 and 10-1). The top measures approx
2-1/4" high including the brass handle.
The celluloid part is approx 1-3/8" high. Condition
is excellent showing very little wear or damage."
|
| These are all bi-level
spinning
tops of mine. (One
collector described them
as : "Plated brass
two-tiered, six sided
spinning top dating
back to the 1920's.") The idea was
for the upper and bottom
halves to spin independently.
Some were aluminum,
or chrome plated....
... ... On the put and takes,
the upper tier would tell
you if you won or lost, and the bottom
tier would tell you how much.
... ... ... On the race horse
tops, the bottom tier would
indicate which horse won, and the upper
tier would give the payoff odds.
The race horse tops originally sold
for 50-cents each in the 1920's. The box
they came in proclaimed "the pocket
race course ... America's Great
New Racing Game."
|
| No. |
Game |
Top sides |
Bottom sides |
Comments |
| 1 |
Crown & Anchor |
1-9-3-5-2-7 |
Crown-Spade-Dia'd- Anchor-Heart-Club |
"Patent 33471"
engraved on top; a
British game similar to Chuck-a-Luck,
I got it from the UK. |
| 2 |
Horse Racing |
DISQ,10-1,2-1, 4-1,6-1,8-1 |
Yutoi-Envoy-Harrier- Scamp-Sicyon-Golden Corn (I have) I have also seen it in these orders: ¶ Yutoi-Golden Corn-Sicyon- Scamp-Harrier-Envoy ¶ Yutoi-Envoy-Golden Corn-Sicyon-Scamp-Harrier (I have) ¶ and so many other combinations of the same 5 horse that I have given up keeping track! |
"Odds On, Pat.
App'd. For" is engraved
on the top of the
spinner. Famous British
race horses, c. 1920's. (Yutoi
was born 1917 and
Golden Corn 1919. In
the U.S., anyway, horses
raced about 2,3 4 years
after birth. Please
correct me if I am wrong about
that.) I got the top from U.K. All these horse-racing tops have machined steel (magnetic) in the upper level, and nickel-chromium brass (non-magnetic) in the lower body. |
| 3 |
Horse Racing |
DISQ, 5-1,2-1, 8-1,6-1,4-1 |
Citation--Assault--Zev-- Whirlaway-- Man-O-War-- Stymie |
no patent numbers,
etc. Quite
lightwight. Aluminum. Famous
American horses.
This top is not
as old as the others.
While Zev was born 1920,
the others were born 1938
to 45. All the horse
on this top, except Stymie
(who won a record fortune in
second class races), won
the Belmont stakes. |
| 4 |
Horse Racing |
DISQ,5-1,4-1, 8-1,6-1,2-1 |
Grey Lag-Colin-- Man-O-War--Morvich- Zev-Spark Plug |
very faint, almost
unreadable, engraved patent numbers, dates,
etc. on
the
top -- perhaps
worn away. On one, I could make out "192" of the 1921 patent
date. MAN O WAR DIED IN 1947 AT THE AGE OF 30, the greatest racehorse of all time. Man o' War made his debut on June 6, 1919. By the time he retired 16 months later, he was a national hero, joining Babe Ruth as the first shining stars of the Roaring Twenties. The charismatic horse's popularity had brought fans back to the track. Man o' War went to the post 21 times and won 20 races. He won one race by an incredible 100 lengths and triumphed in another carrying 138 pounds. He whipped a Triple Crown champion by seven lengths in a match race. ... ... SPARK PLUG WAS BARNEY GOOGLE'S (of the famous comic strip) CRTOON RACEHORSE, introduced in 1921. .. .... GREY LAG won the 1921 Belmont Stakes ... ... . COLIN-1905-1932, won the 1908 Belmont, .. ...... ZEV- became the greatest money-winning racehorse in history. His earnings are now $302084 (1920'S), won the kentucky Derby and Belmont ... ..... MORVICH RACED IN 1920'S DIED IN 1947, a Kentucky Derby winner." |
| 5 |
Horse Racing |
DISQ,5-1,2-1, 4-1,6-1,8-1 |
Lucky Hour-Bunting- Colin--Man-O-War- Morvich-Pillory |
"Patented April
1921, No. 19(or
3)74243."
Famous American Horses.
Colin was born
1908; the others 1919-22.
Go figure.
One eBay listing of
this top said: "Man O'
War, The greatest thoroughbred
racehorse of all time...
...Morvich, 1920
winner of the Kentucky
Derby ....Pillory, 1922
winner of the Preakness
and Belmont Stakes ... ..Lucky
Hour, Lexington Stable
winner at Bellmont and Aqueduct
.. ....Bunting, Whitney Stables
winner at Saratoga and Belmont.
...... Colin, Undefeated champion.
1907-08 Horse of the year.
#15 in the top 100 of U.S. racehorses
of the 20th century." |
| 6 |
Dice |
2-4-1-5-3-6 |
3-6-2-4-1-5 |
For craps or
any other dice game.
The white thing on the top
is a label. I should have scanned
another side, but didn't want
to take
another
scan. |
| 7 |
Put and Take |
Tag (means grip,
take, grab)-Pott
(pot)-Satt
(to deposit,-put)-Tag-Alla
(all)-Satt
|
4-2-5-3-1-6 |
Swedish put
and take. |
| 8 |
Put and Take |
P-T-P-T-P-T |
3-1-A-2-4-0 |
""SPINIM,"
PAT'D APR 12- 21"
Click
here to see that
patent and a drawing of the top,
etc. |
| 9 |
Dice |
4-5-6-1-2-3 |
1-6-5-4-3-2 |
nothing engraved
on top. |
| 10 |
Dice |
6-2-4-1-5-3 |
5-3-6-2-4-1 |
same as No.
8, above, on the top --
SPINIM, etc. |
| 11 |
Dice |
6-5-4-3-2-1 |
5-4-3-2-1-6 |
nothing engraved
on the top. This top
is unusual
in that the numbers go in
a natural sequence
-- 6,5,4,3,2,1. Usually
the numbers are
mixed up as on a roulette
wheel. |
| 12 |
Horse Racing |
1-1, 2-1, 6-1,
8-1, 5-1, 3-1 |
Red Fox, Fan
Tan, My Pal, Jim Jo, Zev,
Gay Pet (query: other than Zev, I can't find info on these horses. Are they actual race horses, what period?) |
no mfgr info is engraved on the top. Both the top (much bigger and heavier than most: c. 1.5" x 1", 72 grams; the other common bi-level horse racing tops are generally 1-1/8" and 28 grams) and the canvas layout (30" x 5") are pictured below this table. April 2008 I paid $210 total for both in the George Cross Collection live, gambling items auction on eBay. Till then I had never seen either. |
| left: a page from
my F. & R. Co. catalog
(circa 1900-1917) advertising
one of these bi-level
horse racing tops (what
I call #5 top, above) and betting
layout. When they spout, "a
special top which is under control at all
times," they mean the top is
gaffed for cheating. Note
that the cheating top is $5.00 and
the "fair top" (i.e., honest) is only $0.50. right: instructions (circa 1950s) from the K.C. Card Co., Chicago, which would accompany the item when ordered (for top #4). (The rounded bottom panels must have been shaved in a certain way {either lower right or lower left rounded more than with a fair top} to produce the desired results.) |
| Another layout for the same Horse Race
top -- #4 in the big chart above. Dealer said, "Maker
unknown, ca. 1920. Bets were placed on your favorite pony (Spark
Plug, Zev, Grey Lag, Man-O-War, Colin, or Morvich) and the
put & take top was spun in the clear plastic circle at
the top of the layout. Paper over cardboard with some edge
damage. Man-o-War was three years old in 1920. 25 x 15." |
|
Tri-level -- one of
the few tri-level tops I know of. United
Kingdom. The Tip Top.
The UK seller wanted $360 buy-it-now
for this. In
the picture to the left, the
stem is not shown. Seller says,
"A nice vintage tinplate gambling
top. The Tip Top with three revolving
central spinners, Length approx
4.5 cm, Width approx 2.5 cm, This piece is
in all original pre-owned condition age related
wear and marks to the tinplate, there
are spots of rust it is not perfect - but
it is unusual." I show this top on my English language spinners page too. This is a horse-racing top. It shows the which horses finish 1st, 2nd and 3rd. Yutoi was a champion thoroughbred, born 1917. |
|
YouTube video of
a Crown and Anchor bi-level spinner! Savvas Papasavva (
miscpro at http://www.miscpro.com ) made this YouTube
video about the spinner on the left, and linked it to
my web page. |
|
Horse-racing. British,
saw on eBay August
2011. Measures
1.5" long. SORANUS - ORPHEUS - TISHY - ALAN BECK - LEIGHTON - YUTOI. All of these are champion English horses which raced from about 1918 to 1922. |
|
Race Horses, British.
Names of Major U.K. Flat Winners on the sides of
the top. "Also known as "The Sport of Kings," and
often linked with gambling, flat racing has been a popular
sport for hundreds of years. It has become a lucrative
financial activity with horses wining millions of dollars
in a race, and millions more as a stud." "The 8-sided ... race spinning top is 3.5 cm and has the names on it: SUNSTAR (1911), DIADEM (1917), SCEPTRE (1902), PANTHER (1919), MINORU (1909), JEST (1913), LADAS (1894), CINNA (1920). On the upper level: 2-1, 5-2, 3-1, 7-2, 7-1, 8-1, 9-2, 5-1 odds," per the owner, but I added the year of their most famous victory in parentheses, from this source. |
|
Horse-racing. Similar
to above. For one thing, the order of the sides is different.
From Gerrit V. This spinner and the one above are both "left-handed." spectre, jest, cina, diadem, panther, sunstar, ladas, minoru. |
|
Horse-racing per Argentine
seller. He says, "ANTIQUE BRASS HORSE RACING 2 PARTS SPIN
INDEPENDENTLY 6 SIDED PUT TAKE SPINNER. TOP READS 7, 9, EVENS, 2,
3 AND 5. BOTTOM READS GRIFF, LEGER, CAPON, ROBIN, BITER & DANTE.
IT MEASURES 1.75 INCHES LONG AND 0.80 INCHES WIDEST. ORIGINAL PATINA,
WEIGHT: 43 GRAMS." |
|
French language.
Sans peur = "fearless." Seller says: "Rare spinner/dice.
Made by van Laere in Brussels. Belgium (engraved on the top of the
top near the handles, it says "VANLAERE.BRUXELLES.") Measures
about 3,5 cm high." I measured mine as .30 grams, and 1-3/8." Click here for a picture of all six sides. The six sides are: Sans Peur, John, Flute, Golden Top, Boy, Queen. I have no idea what the six names represent -- thoroughbred horses, sports teams, pigeons, etc.? |
| Football teams
(British)
bi-level
top. First
time I saw this, on eBay
Feb. 2008. ASTON VILLA - CHELSEA - TOTTENHAM HOTSPURS - MANCESTER CITY - BURNLEY - NEWCASTLE UNITED These teams are English Football (Soccer) League Champions for a long stretch of time -- 19th century till recently. List of champions here. |
|
|
Game unknown. British
seller old_devil
says, "Teetotum type spinner, game
unknown. ...
.... ..... The white
ring turns independently.
"top, 6 sides: 2 to 1, 3 to 1, 4 to 1, 5 to 1, DISQ, EVENS. "bottom, 6 sides: THE FIELD, PANTHER, BLUE FLASH, WHITE LADY, GOLDEN EAGLE, RED KNIGHT. "Made of celluloid or similar early plastic. ... ... .... . Height 1,5/8" or 47mm, diameter 7/8" or 23mm. ... ... ..... Guaranteed old and original." |
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Per seller: Vintage
Bakelite Top ... ..... The
white and red parts are bakelite
- The spin
seperately from each other
so the final outcome is always
random - The blue handle
is wood with some wear to
the paint - The markings on
the white part are P and T and on
the red you have 0 1 4 A 2 3 "It is marked "Spinim" on top with a patent number. The patent number is U.S. PATENT #1374243, and the patent can be seen by clicking here. Once on that web page, you will see links for a drawing of the devise, abstract, description, claims, etc. The patent was made to cover all tops that were bi-level -- two separate rotating parts. "1" wide x 2 1/4" tall." Went for $38. I own this top, by the way. It is also in about the 5th picture on this page, along with other bakelite tops. |
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Bakelite. Beautiful
picture, looks good enough to take a bite out of. Went
for about $46 plus postage on eBay, Oct. 2012. |
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Standard Put &
Take bi-level top on right. |
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Plastic,
like the above, but dice theme. From
this page.
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Bi-level poker top! I
had never seen
this before till February 2009
when it went for
$225 on eBay. The
seller described
it as: "Bi-level poker top ...
1.5" tall by 3/4" wide ... ..The top level spins independently from the bottom. [Hooray! I finally got a nice one on eBay for only $113 in March 2011. Just goes to show that prices fluctuate, so you can wait for the right price (sometimes).] "The top level reads TEN, NINE, ACE, KING, QUEEN, and JACK. The bottom half reads STRAI'T, FOUR, FLUSH, TWO, FULL HOUSE, and THREE." The patent number and date are worn, but legible. It says "patent pending" and gives April 1921 as the date. ... I have finally deduced how the game was played. I don't think there was a layout, and I don't think one played against the "house." Rather, like with poker dice, each player would spin his own "hand," and the highest hand would win. For example, the one pictured here had a queen-high flush, almost a pair of Jacks. |
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Baseball bi-level
top.
Dealer
said, "Bottom
die reads: "Ball, Hit, Ball,
Strike, Foul, Strike" Top die reads: "H.R., 1.B., 2.B., OUT, 3.B., OUT"... ... Measures approx 1 1/4" L .. ... Marked: "PATENTED APRIL 1921 No. 1374243" I won it in Oct 2010 for $62 delivered. |
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Horse racing -- misstrikes.
Top of spinner says "ODDS ON, patent applied for." |
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Another
bi-level poker top, from France. "Top level in this order: SEQ, MP, POK, 1P, 2P, BR "Bottom level: ¶ 9 diamonds ¶ 1 diamond BTE (TE is underlined) followed by S.G.D.G -- 1= Ace - Ace ¶ A kings crown with an "R" under it -- R= Roi - King ¶ A queen's crown with a "D" under it - D= Dame - Queen ¶ Another type of hat with a "V" under it - V= Valet - Jack ¶ 10 diamonds" Note that it is over 1-1/2" tall. ""Bte S.G.D.G." is an abbreviation for a typical phrase concerning products from France. "Bte" is short for "breveté" (="patented")." Credit: from a post October 19, 2005 at this Flickr Yahoo site. |
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Unusual bi-level top with 8 colored
balls. Click
here for full information and pictures on another page. |
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Tri-level! French.
On both sides is engraved : G.Jaquemet
Paris Bte S.G.D.G. Top of Gerrit Veldhoen, Netherlands. |
| Another tri-level of sorts.
This picture was emailed to me
January
2007. The sender said, " It's
from 1982 and was made by a company
called BOJO's. ... .....
..... The top breaks down and you
can move the tumblers off and
on, depending on what you are playing." |
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Tri-level
Crown & Anchor. Dealer in UK says, "AN ORIGINAL CROWN AND ANCHOR GAME. HAS A GREEN CLOTH BOARD WITH MAKERS NAME ON BOTTOM. JUST OVER 11 INCHES BY 9 INCHES. J.GIBSON & SONS "INTERNATIONAL SERIES" MADE IN ENGLAND. THE DICE (top) IS OF A COMPOSITE MATERIAL (probably plastic). BLUE OLD CARDBOARD BOX IS ORIGINAL ALSO." It went for $183.50 plus postage, April 2012. |
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Tri-level
Dice. I found this image on page of Justin
Michell here
. You would roll the device, not spin it. Maxim has similar ones at the bottom of his web page. |
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Tri-Level. UK dealer
was asking $119 plus postage. Has patent information on it.
Per dealer: "Length approx 4 cm .... This piece is in all original pre-owned condition age related wear and marks. ....there are chips to the paintwork in places." The top is 6-sided, each level has these 6 sides: X 1 2 3 4 5. Some numbers are in red, others in black. |
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What game is this?
Probably from Portugal: see here. Bottom level: X - 1 - 2 - X - 1 - 2, and on the top: X - 1 - 2 - X - 1 - 2 Top of Gerrit Veldhoen, Netherlands. |
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Another bi-level
top: the usual odds on top, but
numbers 1 to 6 on the bottom instead
of horse names or crown-anchor-spade-club-heart-duamond. |
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Another bi-level
top with numbers. Top of Gerrit Veldhoen, Netherlands. Bottom level: 1 - 2 - 4 - 5 - 6. Upper level: E, 2 -1, 4 - 1, - 5 - 1, 6 - 1, 8 - 1. |
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Another one. |
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Color added. Nice touch. Two
other nice/unusual features: (1) the upper level has single
numbers, not odds (like 5-1, 3-2,), and (2) lovely spiral
design on the finial (handle) (ususally it is plain or has
parallel lines or a diamond design). |
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From Barrie M's Put and Take collection -- Crown and Anchor bi-level tops. |
Bi-level put and take top. No. 8 in the chart above. 1921. |
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| 5. Gaffed Put & Take |
| Spinner is differentially rounded
on the bottom. The above three
pictures
show how
a Put and Take can be
rigged for
cheating. The
typed instructions
came with the
rigged tops when ordered
from a gambling
supply house. The
scanned instructions
and catalog page are from
the K.C.. Card Co.-Mason
& Co. "Blue Book"
(copyright 1932), which at
that time had offices in eight major
cities across the U.S. Notice how the middle ones are nice and symmetrical -- straight/fair/honest. In both pictures, notice how the tops on the right are shaved on the lower right side of the "T2" face, and the tops on the left are shaved on the lower left side of of the "T2" face. Knowing this would give a favorable percentage to the user; he wouldn't always win on every spin, but would come out a winner in the long run. These are 8-sided tops. The "takes" are opposite each other (for example, opposite the "T2" is a "T3"). Likewise with the "puts." So it would work this way, using the top on the left as an example (the one where the left bottom of the "T2" face is shaved some): if you spun the top clockwise (as a right handed person ordinarily would), it would more often land on the "put" side because if the top slowed down near the "T2" side, it would continue past the extra rounded (shaved) edge and land on the adjoining Put side (or as the Instructions put it more simply: "When spun to the right, a Put will show....."). And as you would expect, on this top, all four of the Take sides are shaved on the bottom left, and on all four Put sides, all of the bottom rights are shaved. Just the opposite would happen if you spin the same top counterclockwise or the top on the right clockwise. Two other gaffed tops appear on this page: here and here. Cheating with Put & Take dice is mentioned here. Switch tops in a game. In his book "Scarne's New Complete Guide to Gambling," John Scarne describes this safer (for the cheats) method: two cheats start playing the game with a fair top in a bar or restaurant. As people gather to watch, they join in the game. When the action really gets going, one cheat switches a crooked top ("put" favored or "take" favored) in and out of the game as required. As the game winds down, they swith the fair top back in, and can leave it to one of the suckers as a souvenir. As noted elsewhere on this page, it is claimed that the prevalence of crooked Put & Take tops led to the end of the Put & Takes craze after the 1930's. |
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Spinner sides alternately
rounded and straight on both ends, and movable spindle.
The principle described above applies to
another form of Put & Take cheating:
the gaffed top is rounded differently on both ends.
The cheat pushes the central spindle up or down as he
passes the top to a player. Thus, all the players could spin
the top clockwise, but would get different results depending which
way the spindle was pushed. (Source.) The Put & Take shown here is from my collection. It works just as described. The spindle can be pushed to work in either direction. In the picture to the left, note how the side with the star is rounded on the bottom and straight-flat on the top. The P1 side is just the opposite: straight-flat at the bottom, and rounded at the top. The pattern holds for all the take and put sides. 1-3/4" plastic. Sides: [red star], P1. T3, P4, T2, [zero], T1, P2. |
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Spinner is NOT rounded,
but is weighted. Here the body of the apinner
is not rounded on both ends (as described in the row
above), nor is it rounded on even one end (as with the red
tops above). Rather, the "top is fixed so that a
tap one way will make little weights enter the "Takes" [sides],
while another tap will put the weights into the "Puts" [sides].
... This top is illustrated in the explanatory drawings."
(From "The Bunco Book," Walter B. Gibson, 1946.) Tapping
away (or pushing and pulling the handle), the cheat can make other
players feed the kitty as often as he chooses, and can win whenever
he wants. |
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Spinner sides alternately
rounded and straight on both ends, and immovable spindle.
. Here the sides are alternately round
and flat on the tops and bottoms of the sides. The
spindle can NOT be pushed. Maybe it is stuck. The
cheat could spin the top clockwise or counter-clockwise as he
wished (as done with the three red celluloid spinners above.).
Or maybe the cheats would have three differenet spinners that
they could palm into the game as they wished. This spinner is celluloid, 1-1/2," from my collection. Sides: 1, 5, 3, 8, 4, 7, 2, 6. |
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and modern-looking Put and Takes
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This is a modern Put and Take (maker calls it a "spinner" and "dreidel") that I first noticed appearing on eBay in October 2008. It is lightweight, made of aluminum, and has a hole in the stem to accommodate a key chain. The letters are "blacked in" for easy reading. |
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Top. ¶ Another modern put and take, sold in U.K. ¶ a similar modern Put & Take is the first item (PT1 -- only $15 plus postage) on my sales page. |
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10-sided top. ¶ Another modern one, sold in the U.K. This one has 10 sides! ¶ Seller says: "As usual it has the following markings: Put One, Take One, Put Two, Take Two, Take All, All Put. As this is ten sided it also has Put Three, Take Three, Put Five, and Spin Again." |
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Modern. About 1-7/16
inch, The right one is a mite longer due to the bigger
point/nipple. The one on the left weighs a
very high 56 grams (2 ounces!). ¶ left one: 10-sided: TAKE ONE, PUT TWO, TAKE THREE, ALL PUT, PUT FIVE, TAKE TWO, PUT ONE, TAKE ALL, PUT THREE, SPIN AGAIN. ¶ right one: 8-sided: TAKE ONE, PUT TWO, TAKE THREE, ALL PUT, TAKE TWO, PUT ONE, TAKE ALL, PUT THREE. |
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Top. ¶ same UK
seller as second row above. 8-sided
and 6-sided Put & Takes,
and die. ¶ He states in eBay auction, "This listing is for the Classic six sided solid brass spinning top game Put and Take. Buy it now price is for ONE reproduction only (not original). Although if you keep it in your pocket for a few days it will tarnish and take its newness away. ... I have had a brass put and take for many years, and played the game since I was 10 years old, previously it belonged to my father. ... This Put & Take is ... new, with nice engraving. ... Also available as eight sided and ten sided Put & Take. ... See also Unusual hexagonal spinning dice (brass) . |
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Metal. Saw this on
eBay Jan 2011.
Seller, illinoisvalleycustoms1.
Seller says, "INCLUDED IN THIS SET ARE FOUR SETS OF DICE. EACH SET IS HANDCRAFTED RIGHT HERE IN THE ILLINOIS VALLEY BY OUR MASTER CRAFTSMAN AND OFFERED AT A DISCOUNTED PRICE IN THIS COMBINATION SET. THE DICE IN THIS SET REPRESENT THE FOUR MOST POPULAR STYLES OF DICE IVC HAS TO OFFER AND ALL MADE FROM SOLID BRASS. INDIVIDUALLY THESE SAME SETS SELL FOR OVER $50.00. THESE DICE ARE NOT BRASS PLATED OR PAINTED, THEY ARE 100% REAL CUSTOM MACHINED BRASS. YOU ARE PURCHASING A SET OF DICE THAT SCREAM “I’M SERIOUS ABOUT MY GAMING”. FEEL FREE TO ASK ANY AND ALL QUESTIONS. THE DICE INCLUDED IN THIS COMBO DEAL ARE AS FOLLOWS: *SET OF TWO ¾” SOLID BRASS SPINNING HEX TOP D6 PIP *SET OF TWO 5/8” SOLID BRASS LONG LOG ROLLER D6 PIP *SET OF TWO ¾” SOLID BRASS FLOATING D6 PIP *SET OF TWO ¾” SOLID BRASS STANDARD D6 PIP |
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Another modern one I saw on eBay, August 2009. Seller, historyfanatic, from Charleston IN, said, "While this top is made to replicate an original IVORY top, ours is reproduced in a resin-based artificial ivory. " He called it a copy of a Revolutionary War one! .. .... The on on the right appeared on eBay, Jan 2013, and the seller emailed me that they are being made now by Rose & Pentagram Design,and soldthrough Noble Knight Games. Looks like the same as the left one. |
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Bone. These have been around for quite a while, usually labeled as "vintage" or "antique." I took these pictures from one honest eBay seller, who described the set as, "This is a contemporary made game of chance for "Put and Take". Includes the carrying case and (2) game pieces. Made from bone. Very well detailed. The case is replicated to look like a wicker basket. The basket measures 2 1/2" long x 1 3/4" wide x 1 1/4" tall. Hinged lid opens to reveal the 2 game pieces. Each are made of bone and feature black & red colored barrel shaped die & "Put & Take" spinning top piece. Each piece is approx. 1 3/4" long. Excellent condition." |
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Aluminum. The dealer
describes these
as: "Up for auction
is a very high quality machined
aluminum
anodized Put and
Take GAMENUT
Dreidel dice/die. This patent pending design is precision balanced and the smooth rounded patent pending spin-tip will not mar surfaces. Lettering is Laser engraved and will not peel off. Each piece weighs in at a heft .3 ounces and provides enough weight to keep the die spinning for over two minutes if you'd like. We've had 2:24 seconds as our best spin." The large blue one (click here to see) is about 2" long and 1" wide. 40 grams. Spins fairly well. Pleasure to pick up and read. Sides: TA P2 AP T1 P1 T2. |
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Annodized. Saw this April 2012 on
eBay. Per seller, "Put N Take Dreidel - Gambling
Spinner - Made in Wisconsin USA, Made in Wisconsin USA, CNC
Machined from Aircraft Grade Aluminum. Annodized - CNC Engraved." |
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Crisloid dice. Dealer, in eBay August 2009 auction description, says: "... .... A box of 1 dozen 3/4" dice for the game Put & Take etched in black, red and blue. Directions for P & T are included. ... .... Proudly made at the Crisloid factory in Providence, RI." |
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Crisloid Put &
Take dice. |
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Modern Put and Take
dice. Easy to read the large letters and numbers. Dies read: GGGTTP P11222 |
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Put & Take dice. Made
by Koplow Games Inc., Massachusetts, made in China. I spotted this
in April 2013. Die 1: 1 2 3 4 5 All Die 2: Put Take Put Take Put Take Rules are on the back of the container. One unusual rule: "If a PUT and an ALL are rolled, then the player puts in an amount equal to the entire pot." While unusual, I have seen this rule mentioned many times. |
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Wood top. Dealer told
me: "I am not sure, but it
is not old. Probably form
90's.Thanks,E." "Put & Take spinning top / Teetotum Wooden handmade, eigth sides 4,5cm long and 2,2cm diameter TA: take all T3: take three P1: Put one T2: Take two AP: All put P3: Put three T1: Take one P4: Put four Spin well, 40 seconds over glass surface" |
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"New spinning top
for Parta
Ola (Put and
Take), the traditional
spinning top game.
Hand lathed of aluminum, well
balanced for long spins.
English lettering is CNC-engraved
and hand painted.
Great game for the whole family.
This auction includes
one aluminum top, instruction
card, and small fabric
gift bag. The perfect gift!,"
as described by eBay seller
rembet33 in Oct 2009. |
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Die. per eBay seller,
March 2010: "Well,
I came up with a design and had it made
and now am selling it to other Put
and Take enthusiasts looking for an
ultimate game experience that
can be carried with you wherever you
go. Okay, I'll even sell it to anyone
else who might want it so don't feel left
out. So, here it is, the ultimate
put and take die!! It's an ivory colored
12 sided (D12 to the gamer community)
16mm die and the sides, in no particular
order, are engraved as follows: Put 1, Put 2, Put 3, All Put, Put All, Lose Turn Take 1, Take 2, Take 3, All Take, Take All, Roll Again" |
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Modern. |
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Modern. Per
seller: "High quality solid brass spin game, lettering is engraved
and painted. "AP = All Pay TA = Take All P1 = Pay One T1 = Take One P2 = Pay Two T2 = Take Two" Spins very well. |
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Steel. Seller says, "spinners
made from the finest quality aircraft grade stainless
steel which is machined using state of the art CNC turning
centers and precision balanced for a piece that will spin
perfectly and last forever, with a finish so bright and shiny
you will need your sunglasses!" |
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Silver. Seller says
they are "made from solid silver." Sells them for 65
GBP. |
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Modern crooked
(gaffed)
Put & Take.
"A gaffed gambling device increases
your odds to
90% accuracy! The six sided
spinner contains a P1, P2, P3, and
a T1, T2, T3, The P's mean you put in 1,
2 or 3 dollars, the T's mean you TAKE," says
the dealer of these tops. The "secret"
is somewhat similar to the three red celluloid
Put & Takes near the top of this page:
if a player (the mark) twists the top to the
right (clockwise) --as most players would--
it will almost always land with the "Put"
sides showing, and if the hustler, who knows
the secret, twists the top to the left (counter-clockwise),
the top invariably lands with
the "Take" sides showing. The red celluloid
tops worked that way because the lower portion
of the sides were rounded in such a way to force
the desired outcome. The white plastic one here
is weighted on the inside for each of the six sides
so as to force the desired outcome depending on whether
the operator twists the stem to the right or left. |
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"Gold Rush"
Put and Take.
Saw this April 2011
on Ebay. Dealer said,
"The contents of the game
are the metal dreidel, 10 authentic
Gold nugget replicas,
rulebook with a very short
history of the California
gold rush, and a canvas pouch to hold
it all. A Fast paced & easy to
learn game for 2 or more players,
new unopened condition. From Channel
Craft Company, Made in U.S.A.,
Original price tag from the Mel Fisher
Museum of $10.95." |
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"Rocky Top."
Unusual the way
the two characters on each side are deliberately
mis-aligned, never saw that before. Also,
the bottom is rounded, no "nipple" or point
to spin on. I first saw this February 2012. "Top is NEW 1 and 1/4 inches tall Hand Machined of solid Brass and Polished Made in the U.S.A. By Me.," per seller. One collector reported to me that this top spins very poorly. She was impressed, though, with its handsome appearance and heavy weight. She sharpened the point *(sanded it down), and that greatly improved its spinning ability. ... I just received mine in the mail; it spins very poorly. I love the hefty weight (36 grams). By the way, not shown here, but the jagged line between the "T" and the "A" on the TA side is the signature "Rocky," the nickname of the creator of the top. Click here to see that T-A-jagged line side. |
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Old
Western -- New. Seller
says, "Gambling 8
sided put-n-take top carried by all early
1800"s gamblers, a game could
be started anywhere with someone putting
money into a pool and spinning the top.
Originals of these tops are hard to find
today, these are made exactly as the originals
and after they tarnish, will look exactly like
an original does." |
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"Morgan's Revenge, A Pirate
Game." Per seller: "This enjoyable and simple game of chance
comes with a 6 sided brass top similar to a dreidel,
a 16 page booklet including instructions, and replica gold doubloons
and pieces of eight. It is packaged nicely in a canvas pouch.
It is small enough to stick in your pocket or in a pouch while
wearing your costume. A fun historic game for play at festivals
and re-enactments. "Sure this game is available elsewhere but, as a bonus, we actually throw in 4 extra coins, so you get a total of 16 coins instead of the standard 12. This allows for more players and bigger stakes! We offer even more coins that are great to add or add replica coins from your own collection. "$12.00 plus shipping." There is also a deluxe edition in a tin box, for a little more money; click here to see it. I bought the thing from Amazon. Glad I did. Cute booklet and coins (13 coins only). But the top is difficult to spin properly and consistently. 16 grams. 25.75 mm. Sides: TA P1 P2 AP T1 T2. It is smaller than similar ones in my collection. |
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"PUT," "TAKE," and ""LOSE SPIN."
The spinner has 8 sides, but only those three commands: take,
lose spin, put, take, put, lose spin, take, put. I like it:
shiny, heavy, 1-3/8" long, get valid spin each time though often
a clumsy spin, fun piece, easy to handle. Per the instruction sheet: "lose spin" means the spin goes to next player clockwise (to left); "put" means each player puts a chip (or amount) into pot; "take" means the spinner takes the pot; and "to decrease spinning time of the spinner, spin on a paper or cocktail napkin." First use and trade mark registered in 1986 and 1987, respectively. Manufacturer: Dan Kroll Industries Corporation, Billings, Montana. Box says: "your own casino: put n take ... solid brass gold plated ... the casino game with a message: 'what goes around comes around.'" Comes with: put and take spinner, 4 colors of chips, purple sachel bag, instruction sheet and original box. |
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Four "sides" to
spinner. More like a dreidel, with four sides: T -- Take one. A -- Take all. P -- Put one. N -- Nothing happens |
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New. Saw this
on eBay June 2011. Per dealer,
"Made from solid brass, this
six-sided Put &
Take measures 1.50" long by 7/8"
wide. It features a knurled
stem for easy spinning and its heavy 1.6
oz weight [46 grams] will aid in long
spin time. Letters are engraved for
longevity. Take a stylish game/casino
anywhere you go!" I own one; it spins very well. Side Engravings: TA P2 T1 AP T2 P1. |
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Card Game: Put
and Take. Per dealer:
"This card game is a variation from the
simple dice or top games
designed to risk pieces of candy,
coins or a few bucks. 54 cards
contain instructions to put or take
playing pieces with the pot or other
players. A few of the cards contain new
instructions that can radically change
the outcome. The game finishes when
one player has all of the pieces. Entertaining
for kids and adults. Great game to have
when family comes over for the holidays." Sold at this web site: playingcardsetc.com |
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"Topp - Silver with Black
Print". "This product is a silver annodized aluminum with
black printed letters." "P1" - Put 1: The spinner puts (pays) 1 into the pot. "P2" - Put 2: The spinner puts (pays) 2 into the pot. "T1" - Take 1: The spinner takes (gets paid) 1 from the pot. "T2" - Take 2: The spinner takes (gets paid) 2 from the pot. "AP2" - All Pay 2: All players must put 2 into the pot. "WTA" - Winner Take All: The spinner wins the whole pot! |
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Another WTA one. |
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"Finish: Polished Brass."
Deltana Gambit. Very pretty, but spins rather poorly. In
fact, most attempts to spin fail! |
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J. L. Lawson
& Co. handmade. The company makes many small metal machinist
products like belt buckles, bottle openers, spinning tops, etc. They say, "Each of our gambling teetotums are hand turned from a solid brass .75″ hex bar making each one unique. The top is stamped, oxidized and then polished but will patina nicely in time." The price for each is $65. They put out interesting videos showing how they made these tops: click here. |
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I saw these for the
first
time August 25,
2010, on eBay in two auctions
with starting bids
of about $65 each. Seller
ID 1knifeguy1 (West Coast
Trading Post) of Fairfield,
CA, calls them "vintage" brass
Put and Takes and lists them many
times. |
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Also called vintage
and
listed many times by
the same seller. Called
by the eBay seller:
antique, brass, hollow in
the inside, and no "top
cover." June 2010. Dealer
said in part: "Unusual
Antique brass gambling device
called a "Put and Take". This tiny
device (only about 1 3/16"
tall x 5/8" wide; weights only
.2 oz.!) ... .... ... this piece has a
brass rod that appears to be pressed
into the inside of the base; and doesn't
appear to have ever had, or needed,
a top covering piece. This piece
has light patina on the brass, and
a greenish verdigris on the inside.
Perfect for any gambling, gaming,
or put & take collection / display." |
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Same seller, also
called
vintage with many listings.
Seller says:
"UNUSUAL NICKEL PLATED
ANTIQUE PUT&TAKE
GAMBLING DEVICE . .. ...
Antique gambling device called
a "Put and Take". This small gaming
device is unusual in that it
is nickel plated, about 1 1/8" tall
x 11/16" wide, and weights a mere .2 oz.." |
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"NICE OLD [?]
PUT AND TAKE SOLID
BRASS SPINNER
IN EXCELLENT CONDITION,
ALL THE NUMBERS & LETTERS
ARE ALL ALMOST PERFECT, NO MAJOR DENTS.
IT MEASURES ABOUT 1 3/8" LONG
X 3/4" AT IT'S WIDES POINT" per dealer
LAMB 534, May 2011. |
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This is the
worst put and take I
have ever seen. For
one thing, it won't spin, ever. The
letter/numbers are poorly
stamped. Purported to be vintage. Sides read: TA, P2, T1, T2, AP, P1. |
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advertised on eBay Feb. 2012
as "Vintage Put and Take dice game
brass spinning piece. Six sided die. Nice!"
Looks modern to me, looks similar to these
"Rocky Top" spinners, which are admittedly modern. ... ...
Unaligned letters are
unusual. ... (The "Rocky Top" spinners have serifs to the "T" and "P," which
the ones pictured here do not have.) |
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Large and small boxed Games, Cards, etc. -- put and take-related. See here too. |
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Edgar Bergen's CHARLIE McCARTHY Put And Take Bingo by Whitman 1938 -- Saw this on eBay, August 2009. Opening bid was about $22.00 postpaid. I didn't bid. Dealer wasn't too helpful with details. I had no idea what it entailed. I was turned off by the big size of the item: "The size of the box is 9"x15"." The description said: ""A game of chance with dice and chips." Box top has staining, major corner and edgewear, one torn side and a small amount of graphic loss at one corner, otherwise solid. Contents are COMPLETE and in excellent condition." |
| "Put and Take" coin-op trade
stimulator by W. C. Steel Ball Table Co., 1931. Source.
The top of the machine says "Test Your Skill For." That is just an attempt to call it a non-gambling game, which would be illegal in most places at that time. Uner that, in a circle, is the name of the game: "Put & Take." Below that is, "Insert penny. Push down on lever and release." There are 8 sections on the large dial. I can make out these sections: Take All (with star), P1, T3, P2, All Put, T2.... . It looks like there are beads on a wire, below -- to keep score? I see there is no auctomatic coin payout. Not sure how it would work. |
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| Argentina spinning top. Advertised
on eBay (wants $100 plus $20 shipping) as a put and take, but
I wonder. The box talks about spinning for points. Anyway,
it looks neat. Apparently you put the finger of one hand
through the loop and quickly push down that yellow piece with the
other hand, and the blue piece is pushed out spinning. Dealer
says: "Rare 1920s Trompolin Wooden Put & Take/Spinning Top/Teetotum
w/Box&Instructions [in Spanish] ... This is the exceedingly
rare "Trompolín" Put & Take Spinning Top with launcher. ...
Besides of being used for playing different table games, it can also
be used as a traditional spinning top with launcher. ...This six-sided
put and take is made of painted solid wood with water-transfer decal numbers
on sides, tinplate "neck" and twisted wire launcher. ...Made in Argentina
by Trompolín M.R. circa 1920-1930s. ...Dimensions: Top: 3-1/8
inches (8 cm) height. Launcher: 12-¾ inches long." Dealer
told me, "sides are just numbered from 1 to 6 with "Industria Argentina"
over 4 and "Trompolin M.R." over the rest of numbers." |
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3 Vintage POLITICAL PUT & TAKE 1960 Dice Games. I saw this on eBay, August 2009. I'm not sure how it is played and what the dice look like. The dealer wasn't very helpful in answering questions. His description: "3 vintage 1960 (dated) Put and Take political dice game. Consists of a 9" tall cardboard sheet with directions and two dice showing various anatomical feature of the donkey and the elephant. Even if you don't like the game, this deal is worth it for the dice." It was listed as buy-it-now for about $20.00 postpaid. |
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Put and Take Advertising
Card. Seen
on eBay
December 2009.
Seller said,
"Put and Take game, given
away by Sanitary Valet System,
NYC. With working spinner
at right. Obsolete gambling
article. Condition: minor
soiling; some wear on printed circle.
Minor edge, corner tip wear.
Otherwise VG. 2 1/2" X 4 3/8" |
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Put
and Take advertising
sign. It is 7.5 inches by 4.25
inches. Taped to the back of the
sign is the profit
chart per set of 1200 "tickets" on a spindle. The player would have
to unwrap the ticket
to see the results. Kind of bold for a store owner to put up a sign like that. Pull tabs, spindle tickets and punch boards would be illegal in most places. 1930s-40s? Note it says "Put or Take." The ones below say "Put 'n' Take and Put-n-Take. Often: Put & Take. |
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Put & Take with
Spinning
Tray -- I bought this
on eBay Sept. 2010. Never
saw one before.
Dealer described
it as: "At auction today is a vintage Put and Take game of chance with a Birdseye Maple tray. The little brass spinning top has six sides marked Put One, Put Two, All Put, Take One, Take Two, and Take All. The Birdseye Maple tray is made of one piece of wood with nice graining and a raised edge that keeps the top from spinning off. Both pieces are in good used condition, the top spins nicely and has no breaks and only a few small dings to the brass, the tray has some expected minor scratching and scuffing. The top is just 1-3/16" long, the tray is 9" in diameter." It arrived, and I am very happy with it. If you spin the top and it gets close to the edge, it does NOT immediately tumble and stop -- rather, it just moves away from the edge and continues spinning, for the most part, and then it collapses and stops. |
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Dealer said, "No information
on the manufacturer
or actual date made, perhaps
50s or 60s. Bar-Zim Manufacturing
Co was out of Jersey
city, NJ. Product is Made
in the USA. ... ... .... The box
is 12" x 10" x 2"." |
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Electric Put
and Take game. I
own this, $30.00. It
actually works, with
a "D" battery (which I removed). You
press down on the little red knob
at the lower righrt to get the
two "rotors" (wheels) to spin -- the
"number rotor" (numbers 1, 2, 3,
4, and 5) and the "color rotor"
(put, take and take all). There
are instructions printed on the
inside of the top of the box. Vintage / Antique Game ELECTRIC PUT-N-TAKE by Jim Prentice The Electric Game Co. Inc., Holyoke, Mass. followed by model number (54-P) and U S patent #. |
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Transogram Put'n
Take dart game. Per
eBay seller in
Nov. 2011: "Vintage Transogram
Put'n Take dart game in old
box. Box is bent out of shape
and had some water damage in one corner.
Darts have been colored black
and the rubber heads are broke. The
22" board is in good shape and so is the
hardware that holds it up. Comes with
instructions." Click here and here to see the darts and the box for this game. It looks like the darts could be thrown while the target was spinning! |
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Dicta-Put.
Dealer says, "The box measures
4 3/4 inches square
by 2 1/4 inches deep. some light
wear on the box, everything
else is like new condition.
this game is dated 1936." Unusual,
so I got it on eBay (only
1 bid, mine) for $50 plus poastage. It is made by Dictacard, Inc., Mishawaka, Ind., USA. (The same company also makes a very similar game called "Dicta-Race," which comes with a gambling gadget, like seen to the left, and a layout with the names of six horses on it. The "gambling gadget" has two balls and two circles of slots for the ball to land; one circle gives the name of the winning horse and the other gives the pay-off.) |
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"5 Games
In One." c. 1950.
Many combination games like this one
(bagatelle, pin ball-like, about 13" x 22")
were sold years ago. They would
have a glass covering. A spring-like device
would shoot marbles inside. The marbles would
hopefully land in one of the metal "catches"
to score points. Note that in the second
picture, there are catches for T2, P1,
P2 and T1. The game shown here is entitled "Happi Time." The 5 games are ""twenty-one, put-n-take, baseball, bagatelle and pennants." |
| Both of the above
games
are by
W. H. Schaper
Mfg. Co. Inc., Minneapolis
11, Minn, copyright
1956. ... ... .. Upper
one: the box is 8.5 x 11
x 1." From left to
right, I show the outside
box cover, the inside including
chips and black plastic put and
take top in the lower left, and
the instructions on the inside
of the top of the box. You can
see the same Put & Take spinner in red here.
.. ..... Lower one:
about 9 x 11 x 3". |
| Put and Take Card,
both sides shown. Interesting
trade or premium card where one
could cut out the body of a put and take
top, but hardly worth the $300 buy-it-now
price on
eBay, May 2011. That's what
you get when those silly
grading companies go to work
and seal products in plastic
holders. It is also what happens
when eBay has those no-fee special
promotions. |
| 8. Dice, Faceted
Balls (not sterling) -- put and take-related |
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"Everybody
Ante." I own a pair of Put
and Take dice like these.
Mine are made of French ivory, a type
of plastic
like celluloid
where an imitation ivory
grain is printed on the dice.
On the standard Put and Take tops
there are different rules
for "PA" or "AP" -- the spinner
can put up one unit or match
the pot, or all the players might
have to put in chips. Here
there is no doubt. One die has on its
sides: P, P, T, T, Take All, and Every
Body Ante. The other die says:
1 2 2 3 3 4. |
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Grain on the dice. From the
collection of Marianne Jager. Note the grain on the dice. |
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More grain on ther dice. Per seller; "These are made of French ivory, a type of plastic like celluloid where an imitation ivory grain is printed on the dice. On the standard Put and Take tops there are different rules for "PA" or "AP" -- the spinner can put up one unit or match the pot, or all the players might have to put in chips. Here there is no doubt. One die has on its sides: P, P, T, T, Take All, and Every Body Ante. The other die says: 1 2 2 3 3 4." |
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Brass Put & Take dice. |
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You Tube: Put & Take
gaffed dice played today! Click here to see
the video. Interesting the way people are
hustling today with crooked Put and Take dice. The
video didn't convince me much. The way he slid the
dice out of the dice cup (not tumbling the dice) seemed an
obvious give-away to me. I also coudn't see how the dice were
tampered with. Finally, anyone would run after he threw "take
all" twice in a row! |
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Hully Gully Put & Take Dice.
I paid about $25 for this neat little thing that does not work too well,
but is fun to have -- it was made for cheating!. As pictured
here on the package (4 x 4 x 4") and instructions, it is basically two
dice in a domed transparent container. The players are supposed to pick it up, shake it, and then place it down on the table to see the results. At the start of the game, the dome had been twisted counter-clockwise, locking the contraption secure in the honest position. When it becomes the cheater's turn to shake it, he would secretly twist the dome clockwise and press it down, activating the magnet which would insure "take" Put & Take results of the dice. He would turn the dome to the honest position when he passes it to the next player. This ploy relies a lot on slight of hand. The box and instructions say: Hully Gully, Pluck Mfg Inc, 3021 Commercial Ave, Northbrook IL 60062. The domed device has on it: Reliable Armature Service, Inc., 10115 South Torrence Avenue, Chicago IL 60617 and a 312 telephone area code number that is no good now. (Zip codes, like 60062, were first used in 1963. Telephone area codes started in the 1940s.) |
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Put and Take
dice with a star. I am always
seeing something new. This one has
on the numbered die: 1 2 3 4 5 * (star
= "all"). Most other times I have
seen these dice with no star -- for example:
1, 2, 3, 3, 4 and A (for All), or 1 2 2 3
3 4. |
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Put and Take dice. Dealer
says, "They look
like they are made of plastic but
I've seen other
ads that list them as Bakelite.
I think they are plastic.
These were made by a company
called Elk Brand." |
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Put and Take Dice
in
Charm or Pendant
-- I reveived
a picture of this from
the owner in Feb. 2010. He
said, " I came across
a set of Put and take dice in a pendant
which I think is brass. I didn't
know what they were for years
until I found info on Put and Take
tops and games on the internet.
I have searched tirelessly
but can not find any similar
to the ones I have. They belonged
to my Grandfather and were mixed
in with war medals and other keepsakes.
The dice are green stone of some sort
with white lettering and the pendant
is possibly brass that opens at
the top and has a eye for a chain I believe.
... I think it might be too heavy
for a bracelet. The case is 1 inch long
by 1/2 inch wide and the dice are
7/16 wide with precision edges. I would
like to try to identify the type of
stone the dice are made of and also the type
of medal the holder is made of. It belonged
to a male so I don't think it was a charm.
" |
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Wonderful little boxed
set: 2 put and
take dice, and a typical
brass put and take solid
top. In August 2010, I
got this for just $28 on eBay. |
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Heads and
Tails Bakelite Dice.
Not a put and take,
but I couldn't resist not
showing it here! Neat. Never
saw these before.
Australian dealer describes it as, "ORIGINAL
1940s HEADS & TAILS DICE ... IN
BOX PACK OF THREE ... GOOD CONDITION
FOR AGE..70+ YEARS....FROM BYGONE
STORE ... BOX MARKED W.O.I. No 256...RUSSELL
CRAFT." |
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The Energy
Company Dubble Lucky Dice. Copyright 1937.
Can be played as dice, ignoring the Ts and Ps. Can
also be played as Put and Take. The item is found at Kevin
Cook's dice site.
The complicated rules can be found here.
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8-sided round-ish Put
& Take. Dealer
describes it as, "Not sure of
the metal it is made of, maybe
lead or zinc plated brass. It
is not magnetic. It measures approx.
9/16th"." I could only see 6 sides, which read: ND, P3, P2, AP, T2, T3. (ND stands for Nihil Dabis -- "nothing happens" in latin.) |
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Round Put & Take.
Unusual metal (non-magnetic, possibly brass) Put & Take:
8 gr, c. 20 mm. The ball (or "cube") has 2 "ends" that say
"Pat Pending" and 8 sides. Says "Pat Pending" on the two "ends." The other 8 sides say: take all, put two, put three, take one, all put, put one, take three, take two. |
| 9. Punchboards
-- put and take-related |
| These are Put and Take
punch boards
and punch cards. Rules: most non-Put and Take punch boards were so many cents per play. For example, on a 5¢ board, the player would put up 5-cents, and the reault would be losing it, winning $.05 (thus breaking even), or winning $.10, $.25. $1.00. etc. But Put and Take punch boards were a little more complex/varied. A typical one would have the player risk not a single amount, but rather risk 1 to 5 pennies. Each punch would mimic a regular Put and Take game. The player would punch one of the unpunched spots and follow the instructions printed on the punched paper: put up (give to the house) 1 to 5 pennies, or win (take from the house to add to his stake) 1 to 5 pennies or more, sometimes up to $1.00! |
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This neat little
punchboard has a picture of
the whole family enjoying a put
and take game!. The seller
describes the punchboard as " Unused
1935. Board is 6" by 4-3/8"
by 5 /8" full color printed, boys and girls
playing dreidel game, with spinner, 300 punches,
green, red and white boarders.
Back has game title Put & Take, Gradner
Guarenteed Salesboard, serial
numbered, operator number, guarenteed,
Made by Gardner & Co 2209 Archer Ave
Chicago. Has punch, paper cover, split , punch
present. Has red, white, blue,
NRA Eagle Member US, for national recovery
act, 1935." |
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Nice little Put &
Take
punchboard. It
went for $17 on eBay,
August 2010. To
play with puchboards like this
one, the customer
would have to have at least
5 cents because if the punch resulted
in a loss for him (a "put"),
he could lose anywhere from
1-cent to 5-cents. If he won (a
"take"), it would be from 5-cents to
$1.00, as noted on the board. The eBay seller described the item as: " Antique Punch Board, unused. "Odd Pennies Put and Take". Board measures 6 1/2" X 6 3/4" and is just over 1/2" thick. Board has rounded corners with light wear along the edges and corners from storage. Metal punch is still factory sealed in the back and the model/serial # sticker is intact." |
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Odd Penny Put & Take.
Punchboard. Only 4" x 5.5." In the "Take" section of the punchboard, at the upper right, it says "TAKE" 1, 2, 5 or 10 bars if you win. The bars say "Elmer's, New Orleans, GOLD BRICK," the name of the candy bar. |
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Another
Put and Take trade stimulator
punchboard I own. Per the dealer: "Very nice vintage circa 30's-40's 120 hole Put and Take Punchboard game.These were found in bars and general stores. Someone would punch a hole with the key and a slip of paper would push through. The person would either owe the house .10-.25 or win .25-1.00. The game would net the house a profit of $7.00. Everything fits inside the two peice red plastic case (about 2 x 3 inches)." |
| Illegal
Put & Take punchboard
"trade stimulator"
disguised as a common match
box. Really great item. It
would be left on the counter
of a store near the
cash register. When the customer
is given change, he is given the
opportunity to make a small
wager with the change. He can
push the punchboard through the matchbox
and punch out a paper which tells
him whether he lost 10, 15 or 25 cents,
or whether he won 25, 50 or 100 cents!
It is, of course, disguised as
a harmless match box so the police and bluenoses
will ignore it in plain sight,
while those "in the know," or known to the
owner, will spot it for gambling. Actually
such disguised punchboards were probably
well known, but kept "disguised" so as not to ostentatiously
force the sight of them on children
and others. The instruction sheet tells the store owner that the customer will win ("take") 12 times, lose ("put") 48 times, with a net profit to the owner of $3.50 from 60 punches. The dealer described it as, "UNPUNCHED PUT & TAKE 60 HOLE PUNCHBOARD IN A MATCH BOX -- Great little item is 2-1/4" x 1-3/8" x 5/8" and slides into a match box (Protecto wooden cover) - Unpunched and comes with a little instruction sheet" |
| 10. Records and
Sheet Music -- put and take-related |
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Wow,
click here to
hear this YouTube jazz-gypsy swing
sound composition by Joe Venuti's
Blue Four's group: "Put
and Take" (1929), Eddie Lang on the
guitar. It is tune #4, side 2, on
the record label pictured to the left. It is on Volume 7 of the Odeon Swing Music Series. You may buy "Put And Take" on Google Play, iTunes, eMusic, and AmazonMP3. Related to the two below. You can even have a "Put and Take" musical ringtone! |
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"Put and Take"
fox trot! -- Artist - Joe Venuti's
Blue Four, Label - Parlophone - R 973,
Side One - Put And Take, Side Two - Dallas
BluesRecord Size: 10 Inch
Sub-Genre: Big Band/Swing,
Speed: 78rpm. |
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"Put
and Take," (1922; composer, Silberman; Conductor, G W Byng) delightful
Music Hall-type ditty -- lyrics and instrumentals -- sung by Harry Fay.
You can hear it on YouTube. "Put and take, put and take, put and take, what a funny little game is put and take. First you lose, then you win; that's the time when you GRIN, then you have another little spin... .. Yes, that is the game that keeps you wide awake. What a game, never fails, all the convicts in the jail, they all play put and take" -- words from the song. You can read all the words to the complete song here. Ubiquitous recording artist, Harry Fay made hundreds of records, mainly for Zonophone, Cinch, Parlophone and Imperial labels. Thanks to Marianne Jager for finding this song and production data. |
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"Put and Take"
blues! -- JOHNNY DUNN'S
ORIGINAL JAZZ HOUNDS - PUT AND TAKE
/ MOANFUL BLUES, Columbia A3579...."This classic
by Johnny Dunn was recorded in 1922. .. .... Speed:
78 RPM .. .....Record Size: 10., per eBay seller" |
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Wonderful Put
and Take
theme on a sheet music
cover, on eBay August 2009, bid up
to $106.00. I don't
own it, came in second.
"Sheet music.
PUT AND TAKE is a song about gambling
away his money playing
Put and Take. Copyright
1921. 1/2" tear through
all pages top left (in the "U").
Light fold in the center.
Six pages." |
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"Stop--Rest a While"--song--(1921,
Brymn/Gilbert, from show PUT AND TAKE). Notice the small
put & take spinner right under the words "PUT AND TAKE." |
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More old Put
and Take sheet music. Sold
on eBay, Oct 2009, by
bixokeh, who described
it as, "Scarce sheet music for
"My June Love" from the stage production
"Put and Take" Music by Spencer
Williams, lyrics by Irvin
Miller, published by Perry Bradford
Music, 1921." I own one of these from
the "Put and Take" stage production -- virtually
same cover, though mine has the
sheet music for "Nervous Blues," not "My
June Love." |
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"PUT'N TAKE BLUES" --
BARBER KEESEY RARE ANTIQUE 1920 SHEET MUSIC. |
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Teach them while they are young. I bought this on eBay, August 2009. "Put In, Take Out." Seller said, "THIS SWEET LITTLE BOOK IS IN GOOD CONDITION. ... ILLUSTRATION ARE SO SWEET. .. . 12 PAGES 6" X 4." PICTURES BY JAN PLAMER. GOLDEN PRESS, NEW YORK 1983." |
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Inspirational booklet.
Another silly thing I couldn't resist putting on this page.
This is the cover of an inspirational 1951 small
booklet published by the H. H. Horton Co, NYC.
It describes Put and Take as the "biggest game in
the country," and "when it rolls over and stops, you do what
it says." It uses the game as a parable for life, and
a jumping off point for its economic message. I won the auction. It's a 16 page boooklet, including the covers. Ironically, it is very relevant for today. It notes how some call "profit" a dirty word and want confiscatory taxes. On the last page the booklet asks, "where is the money going to come from for the operation and expansion of business?" But it can't come from government because "Where do they get their money? From profits, of course. So who's kidding who?" |
| 11. Miscellaneous
vintage spinners: non-put & take tops,
non-bi-level |
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Golf Tops. Per
the dealer
in the UK: "A nice
vintage boxed set of Teetotum
Spinning Tops . ... Faux shagreen
style fitted box impressed Spingolf
to the top left corner ... Containing
five brightly coloured
tops ... which represent 5 different
golf clubs which are spun
to obtain the result of each stroke
... Diameter of each approx 2 cm ...
Length approx 4 cm ... Width of box
approx 9 cm ... Length approx 10.5 cm ...
Believe that originally there would have
been a board game with the tops this has
long gone." The five tops read (from above): masher,
mid iron, driver brassie, mashie niblick,
and putter. Listed for $202
buy-it-now price in May 2011. Click here to see the same set made of metal (lead?), made by Arbeco, called the "Tip Top Golf Set." The seller said, "THERE ARE 5 GAME SPINNERS, A DRIVER THAT IS 8 SIDED, THE OTHER FOUR ARE 6 SIDED AND ARE MARKED, MID IRON, MASHIE, MASHIE NIBLIC AND PUTTER. ALL ARE MARKED PATENT PENDING AND HAVE THE RESULTS OF THE "SHOT". AS AN EXAMPLE THE DRIVER HAS YARDAGES AND OF COURSE "OUT OF BOUNDS" WHICH IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE SHOTS. THE MID IRON HAS YARDAGES AND "IN TRAP" AND "FLUB". SEE, IT'S JUST LIKE REAL GOLF. THE PUTTER HAS A 1 PUTT, 2 2PUTTS, 2 3 PUTTS AND EVEN A 4 PUTT." |
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Miss Blanche. This put & take
with "Miss Blanche" (a cigarette brand around 1950, same
period of the spinner) on it is in the collection of
a museum in The Netherlands There are so far around 6 different
models known. Four (including this one) are shown in the row
below. This spinner and the ones below are from the
collectiion of Gerrit Veldhoen. |
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| "Walter Johnson Baseball Game"
spinner. Below is the "Walter Johnson Baseball Game"
spinner and pieces -- items I see on eBay from
time to time. The eBay seller said, "These
hard-to-find [?] pieces come from an early baseball
board game featuring Washington Senator Walter "Big Train"
Johnson (Career: 1907-1927, [one of the most famous baseball
pitchers of all time]. He was inducted into the Baseball
Hall of Fame in 1936.) "Spinning top (operates like a dreidel): made of a heavy metal, perhaps lead. Measures 2-1/2" in length; 1-3/8" in width. Has baseball terminology listed around its sides, telling players where to go on the playing board. Top of lid is imprinted: "Walter Johnson Baseball Game ~ Washington, D. C. ~ Made in U.S.A. ~ Patented." Lid screws on and off easily so tokens can be stored inside of spinner. 10 Aluminum (?) tokens or coin game playing pieces: 5/8" in diameter; 2 cm. thick; blank on back sides." There are 20 sides (each with a baseball action, some of which repeat themselves, like "ball,""strike," and "infield out.") on the spinner. Going clockwise: home run, double play, ball, single, infield out, foul, 2 base hit, fly out, infield out, ball, single, strike, fly out, error, infield out, strike, 3 base hit, ball, fly out sac, and stole base. I have done research on the game. It was published in 1925. I believe there are at least two versions of the game. Both have tokens that are blank on the reverse side. One version has a head picture of Johnson on one side (see in row below); the other version has an image of a full figure batter (click here); I'd trade one of my tokens (with Johnson's head shown) for one with the full batter shown. To view the entire game, box and all, click here. |
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Café Terminus. "(
TERMINIS was a Roman God for protecting the border so far
as I know.) Terminus was a very common name for Hotel - Restaurant - Pub/café in The Netherlands - Belgium and France," per Gerrit V, his spinner, c. 1950s. |
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General Tire. General
Tire began its car tire brand about 1920 in the US and began
operating in AMSTERDAM about 1930. Circa
1950's. Top of Gerrit V. |
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Hotel Noord Brabant. "Was
after WW 2 with 2 locations in the Netherlands
, both are mentioned on the top: s 'Hertogenbosch
en Utrecht. Around 1970 both Hotels changed the name
, because they are sold to another group, per Gerrit V,
his top. |
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Great looking dice top. On eBay auction
March 2012. It went for about $50.00. |
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Italian. June
2011,
I saw this on British eBay.
Dealer said, "This
little brass game spinner
which is Italian in origin
is an example that I have not had or
seen before and over the years I had several
different brass game spinners
but I have never had this example before .
The game spinner is marked with the numbers
1, 2 , 3, 4, 5 and the word SARTI on the sides
. On the top it is stamped MESSICANO. "Messicano Sarti" in Italian means "Mexican Tailors" Gerrit emailed me this info: "...Messicano Sarti is a Liquer brand - .... about the first advertising around 1922 Messicano L'apperitivo Sarti." |
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Five tops. From Gerrit V. |
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"SOCCER FOOTBALL. Rare 6-SIDED BRASS
SPINNER. SIDES READ: L, V & E, TWO TIMES EACH -- L FOR HOME,
V FOR AWAY, AND E FOR DRAW. IT MEASURES 1.25 INCHES LONG AND 0.75 INCHES WIDEST. ORIGINAL PATINA. Weight: 30 grams." May 2013, $100. |
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Another Football Spinner. "Football
spinner from Argentina .... The letters are upside down. It spins well, only,
the handle is too short for an easy spin. L= Local, E= Empate (draw) and V= visitors." Owned by Marianne Jager. |
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United Kingdom.
Top of Gerrit Veldhoen, Netherlands. Marked with dots (like dice) and TIMMINS Co Ltd SLOUGH BUCK'S. "IS PROBABLY FROM THE COMPANY TIMMINS METALWORKING which started in 1881." per Gerrit. |
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Football top. The spinner messures
2,9 x 1 cm. Top of Marianne J. |
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Colors
instead of numbers (the top on right)! Saw this
on eBay April 2012. The one on the right has colors instead
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Numbers w/ coins.
Saw on U.K. eBay June 2012. Per Dealer: "Trench art spinning top dice or teetotum made of solid brass. It is hexagon shaped with a ww1 half penny on the top with the date 1916 and one on the underside with the date 1918. It has the numbers 1 to 6 on the flats with opposites that add up to 7. It measures about 40mm from the point to the top and about 21mm across the flats. It weighs 30g." |
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Numbers w/ coin.
Dealer: "Vintage spinning top dice or teetotum made of solid
brass and copper. It is hexagon shaped with inlaid copper on the
top and a domed penny on the underside bearing the date 1916. This
dice has the numbers 1 to 6 on the copper top with opposites that
add up to 7. It measures just over 42mm from the point to the top
and just under 35mm across the flats. It weighs about 45g. ." |
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Fortune Telling. I
had this on my Non-English Put and Take page, but an Andy in Vermont
made this sensible suggestion: "I'd say this was used for fortune
telling rather than gambling: "Questionable; Never; Maybe; No; Yes;
You bet!" (The six sides read: QUST - NVR - MAYB - NO - YES - UBET) |
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Netherlands
advertising dice top. Oude Schie is a real estate
firm established in 1926 in Rotterdam. The sides read:
1 to 5, and Oude Schie for 6. Top of Marianne G. |
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Unsure. Probably
an old Put & Take, but not certain. Australian seller
says, June 2012, "A VERY FINE LITTLE TURNED BRASS SPINNING TOP
DIE. FOUR LETTER INSTED OF NUMBERS. M , N , T AND P. MIGHT HAVE BELONGED
TO A GAME. THE ITEM IS 22 MM LONG." |
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Portuguese
Game: "Rapa Game"-- X 1 2. Got this from a UK seller
Don't know what game it is for. Lighting throws the color
off. Actual color is golden-yellow brass. 1-1/8," 20 grams. Spins very poorly. Six sides: X 1 2 1 2 1. (Local (1) - Draw (X) - Guest (2).) Look here too. |
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Lawson modern tops. P.T.
Lawson Co. is currently making hand made, machined, one-of-a-kind
spinning tops. You might want to look at some of them here. |
bone, 8 sides, 3.25" |
1-6, 45 mm, brass, UK sixpence |
only 20 mm, made of bone |
"Knox," per Maxim
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Lovely. |
Advertising dice spinner. Dice dots on all 6 sides, except HULSTKAMP is on what would be the 6th side. Seller: "Dutch liquor factory Hulstkamp." |
1903 postcard |
4 sides, 4 suits |
Unusual: 8 sides, spots 1 thru 8! 1.35," 29 grams. |
MARKED "SLOUGH BUCKS TIMMINS CO LTD." 1.25." |
Roman numerals 1-6 on the flats |
From Marianne Jager web page. |
nice |
1886 Queen Victoria penny, 38 mm high, 33 mm wide. |
44 mm high, 37 mm wide |
1 1/8" tall x 11/16" wide sides: 70, 80, 90, 100, 110 & 120 |
3.5cm. |
Spinning dice, Marianne Jager collection. Includes the one on the left. |
1917 farthing coin is part of top. It's 64mm high and 75mm in diameter. Flats numbered 1 to 6. |
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