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  "PUT AND TAKE" TOPS and OTHER GAMBLING TOPS
 -- THE PUT AND TAKES ON THIS PAGE ARE NOT FOR SALE --
-- HAPPY COLLECTING --

( Incidentally, here are links to some dice pages on my web site: poker dice, jumbo  dice, and other dice. )
(Note: many of the tops shown here are NOT mine, just copied from eBay pages.)

 PUT and TAKES and TOPS FOR SALE ARE ON ANOTHER PAGE:
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2 boxes
Origins.  The Put and Take is one of many forms of Teetotums (any gaming spinning top).  The Teetotums were known in ancient Greece, and the Dreidel  (put and take instructions on the four-sided spinner) was developed in 16th century Germany.   Put & Take tops, like the standard brass one pictured just above, were very popular from the early 20th century to about the 1940’s.  They could be carried in ones pocket and used anytime in a bar or other gathering place for an impromptu gambling session.  Each player would contribute chips, coins or currency to a pot.

Links.  Here are some informative links on the subject of Put and Takes:
Wikipedia Teetotum article .
Waterloo Univ. ELLIOTT AVEDON VIRTUAL MUSEUM OF GAMES: Dreidel - Put & Take - Teetotum .
Game: TEETOTUM -- (Detail from Brueghel's Painting) .
The Chanukah Dreidel (Dreidle) .
¶ Website of ARJAN VERWEIJ: click here, here, and here.

Rules.  If it landed T1, T2 or T3, the player who spun it would  win (take) 1, 2 or 3 chips, respectively, from the pot.  If it landed with the star or “Take All” showing, he would take all the chips from the pot. 

If it landed P1, P2 or P3, he would lose (put) 1, 2 or 3 of his chips, respectively, into the pot.  If it landed "0" or  “Put All” or “All Put,” he would  have to match the pot or lose all his chips or each player would have to contribute to the pot, depending on the rules. I have one set of rules where a land on "0" would mean just that  the top passes to the next person.  

Collection.  In the many pictures below are some of the over 100 Put and Takes in my collection, plus some similar horse racing and dice tops. Towards the bottom of the page, I show some put and takes that I do not own.  Be sure to see the about 15th picture below (the one with the three red celluloid tops), which show how Put and Take tops can be rigged for cheating!

Spin.  Some of the tops spin easier than others.  For tops that are difficult to spin, try this technique: you have to (1) press it down firmly against the surface, (2) make sure it is upright and still; and (3) then twist it.  Experiment with your top.

You can make your own Put and Take using cardboard and a pencil.
 Try theses links: here,  here and here, from a site about Spanish language put and takes.

New York Times 1921 news story of Women's Christian Temperance Union denouncing Put and Takes by name.


 

Index. Some Groupings of Put and Takes on this page -- quick links:
miscellaneous vintage
bi-level tops
foreign put and takes
gaffed tops: vintage, modern
punch boards
boxed game sets, cards
modern put and takes
misc. look modern


metal
Pictured above are the most common type of Put and Takes.  They were usually small, about an inch high, and made of brass. They can be distinguished from each other in a variety of ways, as is apparent on this page.
  
¶  6-sided ones:  groups (bags) "5" and "7," above, are 6-sided tops, and as such invariably have words on the sides and must be read with the top lying on its side -- the words are lined up with the stem of the put and take top (go in the same direction as/are parallel to the length of the stem) . These invariably have words (like "put two") on the sides, not short-hand "P2", "T1," etc.

8-sided ones:  groups "2", "4" and "6" above are 8-sided tops, and as such invariably do not have full words on the sides, just a letter, star and/or number, and to view/read them, you must hold the top upright.  I have never seen an 8-sided one with words on the sides, just T1, TA, P2, etc.... ... ....  I find that the 6-sided ones are more common than the 8-sided ones.

bi-level: in group "1" and "3" the tops are "bi-level."  That is, there are two independently moving parts.  In "1" the P's and T's are on the top level and the amounts (1, 2, 3, etc.) are on the lower level.  Also in "1," some of the tops represent two dice.  In group "3,"  generally the pay-off odds are indicated in the top level, and the name of a horse is on the bottom level; the horse-betting ones have the name of famous race horses and were copyrighted in the 1920's.

serifs: in groups "4" and "5," the letters have no serifs (those short, fancy hanging lines at the ends of the letters, like the letter "T" here), while in groups "2" and "7" there are serifs.

¶ The tops in group "6" are made of sterling.

¶ The tops in "2", "4" and "6"  are 8-sided.  The others are 6-sided.


Things to look for in cataloging your Put & Takes:

1. material of the tops -- all metal, all plastic, all wood, etc., or combination of materials.
2. number of sides -- 6 or 8, usually.
2a. words/letters read with the stem being upright (invariably, 8-sided put & takes) OR with the stem held horizontally (invariably, 6-sided put & takes).         
3. words (eg., "take all") OR letters (eg., "TA") on the sides.
4. smooth handle/stem OR knurled/serrated handle/stem.
5. do the letters have serifs or not?
6. when you read words on the sides (almost always the six-sided ones) is the handle on the right or the left?  (It is almost always on the right.)
7. solid put & takes, OR bi-level ones (very rare -- see tops #7 and #8 in the large table below).
8. are the words/letters printed, engraved, or embossed (rare)?
9. the particular words/letters on the sides and the order they are in.



other metal
These are other miscellaneous metal Put and Takes.  A number of them are sterling.  Note the different sizes.  One near the upper left is a pin.  The dark one near the upper right is a cube-shaped metal Put and Take.  Just below it is a 4-sided top.  The two at the lower right and lower left have internal spinning dials.  The reddish one near the top has a needle and thread inside.


misc non-metal
These Put and Takes are non-metal.  About half are made of catalin; others bone, wood, celluloid and ordinary plastic.  Some are bi-level.  Three of them are mechanical lead pencils that are to be rolled for the Put and Take effect.  Two of the tops are celluloid advertising pieces -- one touts Manbeck's Bread ("A winner everywhere"); the other says "You don't gamble when you buy Trenton Crackers."  The white 4-sided one at the bottom is made of ivory.  The one next to it is 4-sided wood.  The red one next to it is plastic with a compartment for solid perfume.


 
Earliest 6-sided Put and Take I know of --  pictured above -- 18th-19th century, per auction house.  I thank Marianne Jager, of the Netherlands, for the above picture of her ancient Put and Take spinner and the following informatrion.  She says, "In the Netherlands 18th –19th century they made spinners from silver, like in the picture. The letters and text are old Dutch. Lengh 3.2 cm, weight 6.8 gram
"The letters on each of the 6 sides:
A - only take
B - to pay
N - nothing to take
T - take
D - double put
S – put."

She adds, "The letters on the sides are difficult to read, old fashioned Dutch," so she is giving an approximate translation. "Anyway, the letters stand for put and take, inclusive: nothing (spin again?) and double.... , like the spinners we all know. That much is for sure."

In a reference work, she found, "... about women in the beginning of the 18th century ... had little games ... . Spinning with the a-al-top was one of the games.  The top has 6 letters:  A (al = take all),   B (bij = add?),   S (set=put),   T (trek= take),   D(dubbel=double) and N(niet=not, nothing)."

None of this should be surprising, what with the Teetotum gambling top being known in ancient Greece and the Dreidel  (put and take instructions on the four-sided spinner) being developed in 16th century Germany -- source here .





I own a pair of Put and Take dice like these.  Mine are made of French ivory, a type of plastic like celluloid where an imitation ivory grain is printed on the dice.  On the standard Put and Take tops there are different rules for "PA" or "AP" -- the spinner can put up one unit or match the pot, or all the players might have to put in chips.  Here there is no doubt.  One die has on its sides: P, P, T, T, Take All, and Every Body Ante.  The other die says: 1 2 2 3 3 4.

Put and Take dice with a star.  I am always seeing something new.   This one has on the numbered die: 1 2 3 4 5 * (star = "all").   Most other times I have seen these dice with no star --  for example: 1, 2, 3, 3, 4 and A (for All), or 1 2 2 3 3 4.

Heads and Tails Bakelite Dice.  Not a put and take, but I couldn't resist not showing it here! Neat.  Never saw these before.   Australian dealer describes it as, "ORIGINAL 1940s HEADS & TAILS DICE ... IN BOX PACK OF THREE ... GOOD CONDITION FOR AGE..70+ YEARS....FROM BYGONE STORE ... BOX MARKED W.O.I.  No 256...RUSSELL CRAFT."

Put and Take Punchboards

These are Put and Take punch boards and punch cards.

Rules: most non-Put and Take punch boards were so many cents per play.  For example, on a 5¢ board, the player would put up 5-cents, and the reault would be losing it,  winning  $.05 (thus breaking even), or winning $.10, $.25. $1.00. etc.

But Put and Take punch boards were a little more complex/varied.  A typical one would have the player risk not a single amount, but rather risk 1 to 5 pennies.  Each punch would mimic a regular Put and Take game.  The player would punch one of the unpunched spots and follow the instructions printed on the punched paper: put up (give to the house) 1 to 5 pennies, or win (take from the house to add to his stake)  1 to 5 pennies or more, sometimes up to $1.00!

This neat little punchboard has a picture of the whole family enjoying a put and take game!.  The seller describes the punchboard as " Unused 1935.     Board is 6" by 4-3/8" by 5 /8" full color printed, boys and girls  playing dreidel game, with spinner, 300 punches, green, red and white boarders.   Back has game title Put & Take, Gradner Guarenteed Salesboard, serial numbered, operator number, guarenteed, Made by Gardner & Co 2209 Archer Ave Chicago.  Has  punch, paper cover, split , punch present.      Has red, white, blue, NRA Eagle Member US, for national recovery act, 1935."

Nice little Put & Take punchboard.  It went for  $17 on eBay, August 2010.  To play with puchboards like this one, the customer would have to have at least 5 cents because if the punch resulted in a loss for him (a "put"), he could lose anywhere from 1-cent to 5-cents. If he won (a "take"), it would be from 5-cents to $1.00, as noted on the board.

The eBay seller described the item as: " Antique Punch Board, unused.  "Odd Pennies Put and Take".  Board measures 6 1/2" X 6 3/4" and is just over 1/2" thick.  Board has rounded corners with light wear along the edges and corners from storage.  Metal punch is still factory sealed in the back and the model/serial # sticker is intact."

Another Put and Take trade stimulator punchboard I own.
Per the dealer: "Very nice vintage circa 30's-40's 120 hole Put and Take Punchboard game.These were found in bars and general stores. Someone would punch a hole with the key and a slip of paper would push through. The person would either owe the house .10-.25 or win .25-1.00. The game would net the house a profit of $7.00. Everything fits inside the two peice red plastic case (about 2 x 3 inches)."

Illegal Put & Take punchboard "trade stimulator" disguised as a common match box.  Really great item.  It would be left on the counter of a store near the cash register.  When the customer is given change, he is given the opportunity to make a small wager with the change. He can push the punchboard through the matchbox and punch out a paper which tells him whether he lost  10, 15 or 25 cents, or whether he won 25, 50 or 100 cents!  It is, of course, disguised as a harmless match box so the police and bluenoses will ignore it in plain sight, while those "in the know," or known to the owner, will spot it for gambling. Actually such disguised punchboards were probably well known, but kept "disguised" so as not to ostentatiously force the sight of them on children and others.

The instruction sheet tells the store owner that the customer will win ("take") 12 times, lose ("put") 48 times, with a net profit to the owner of $3.50 from 60 punches.

The dealer described it as, "UNPUNCHED PUT & TAKE 60 HOLE PUNCHBOARD IN A MATCH BOX -- Great little item is 2-1/4" x 1-3/8" x 5/8" and slides into a match box (Protecto wooden cover) - Unpunched and comes with a little instruction sheet"


 


games
These are combination games that include Put and Take (also called  Plus and Minus on one).  The bottom one is made of wood.  It is, among other things, a roulette wheel.  It is 14" in diameter, was copyrighted 1933 by the Cardinal Co., Dallas, Texas.


instructions
shaved
straight
The above three pictures show how a Put and Take can be rigged for cheating.  The typed instructions came with the rigged tops when ordered from a gambling supply house.  The scanned instructions and catalog page are from the K.C.. Card Co.-Mason & Co. "Blue Book" (copyright 1932), which at that time had offices in eight major cities across the U.S.

 Notice how the middle ones are nice and symmetrical --  straight/fair/honest.  In both pictures, notice how the tops on the right are shaved on the lower right side of the "T2" face, and the tops on the left are shaved on the lower left side of of the "T2" face.  Knowing this would give a favorable percentage to the user; he wouldn't always win on every spin, but would come out a winner in the long run.  These are 8-sided tops.  The "takes" are opposite each other (for example, opposite the "T2" is a "T3").  Likewise with the "puts."

So it would work this way, using the top on the left as an example (the one where the left bottom of the "T2" face is shaved some): if you spun the top clockwise (as a right handed person ordinarily would), it would more often land on the "put" side because if the top slowed down near the "T2" side, it would continue past the extra rounded (shaved) edge and land on the adjoining Put side (or as the Instructions put it more simply: "When spun to the right, a Put will show.....").  And as you would expect, on this top, all four of the Take sides are shaved on the bottom left, and on all four Put sides, all of the bottom rights are shaved.

Just the opposite would happen if you spin the same top counterclockwise or the top on the right clockwise.




lobby card close-up
This is the only movie lobby card I know of that shows a put and take, and two are shown on the lobby card!  It is from the 1922 silent film, "Forsaking All Others." Nothing can be read from the lower left (white) put and take, but the upper right one's two sides can be read.  You can read them too if you look close -- "TAKE ALL" and "PUT 3."


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This is something I just saw for the first time -- a 10-sided put and take.  It is made of brass.  I don't own it.  It went for over $200 on eBay in January 2004.



I don't own this little dandy.  It is described as enameled on brass, 1-1/4."  It went for  $155 on eBay in November 2005.


 
Crown and Anchor put and take top.  I now own one of these.  The one pictured above was sold on eBay in June 2006 for $254.  Seller was from United Kingdom.    The description said in part, 

"This is a vintage 6-sided brass spinner (or wobbler).It looks similar to a 'Put & Take' spinner, but is in two sections - the top section can be spun independently to the bottom part. The top part has numbers (1, 7, 2, 5, 3, 9). The bottom part has card suits (heart, spade, club and diamond) plus a crown and an anchor. On the top has 'Patent 33471.' It measures approx 1.25"

I later acquired one in 2006 for about $100 in a private sale.  They are rather small -- about 1-1/4" high and about 1/2" wide.  The top (odds) part moves rather freely.  I learned that it takes a certain technique to get it to spin properly.  At first I thought it would never spin.  Then I got it to spin properly about 1 time in 15.  Finally, I found the technique: you have to (1) press it down firmly against the surface, (2) make sure it is upright; and (3) then twist it.  It spins for quite a long time.




More neat bi-level ones.  Left: Looks like the bottom, at least, is made of a type of plastic. Right: seller says, "Celluloid Put & Take Teetotum Gambling Top - 1920's.  This is a really nice old celluloid Put and Take teetotum featuring famous horses of the 1920's. The horses depicted are Man O’ War, Spark Plug, Zev, Colin, Greylag and Morvich. The top has six sides and a separately rotating top portion with the odds on it (1-1, 2-1, 3-1, 5-1, 4-1 and 10-1). The top measures approx 2-1/4" high including the brass handle. The celluloid part is approx 1-3/8" high. Condition is excellent showing very little wear or damage."


 

 



These are all bi-level spinning tops.  (One collector described them as : "Plated brass two-tiered, six sided spinning top dating back to the 1920's.")  The idea was for the upper and bottom halves to spin independently. Some were aluminum, or chrome plated.... ... ... On the put and takes, the upper tier would tell you if you won or lost, and the bottom tier would tell you how much. ... ... ...  On the race horse tops, the bottom tier would indicate which horse won, and the upper tier would give the payoff odds.  The race horse tops originally sold for 50-cents each in the 1920's.  The box they came in proclaimed "the pocket race course ... America's Great New Racing Game."
No.
Game
Top sides
Bottom sides
Comments
1
Crown & Anchor
1-9-3-5-2-7
Crown-Spade-Dia'd-
Anchor-Heart-Club
"Patent 33471" engraved on top;  a British game similar to Chuck-a-Luck, I got it from the UK.
2
Horse Racing
DISQ,10-1,2-1,
4-1,6-1,8-1
Yutoi-Envoy-Harrier-
Scamp-Sicyon-Golden Corn (I have)

I have also seen it in these orders:
¶ Yutoi-Golden Corn-Sicyon- Scamp-Harrier-Envoy
¶ Yutoi-Envoy-Golden Corn-Sicyon-Scamp-Harrier (I have)
¶ and so many other combinations of the same 5 horse that I have given up keeping track!
"Odds On, Pat. App'd. For" is engraved on the top of the spinner.  Famous British race horses, c. 1920's. (Yutoi was born 1917 and Golden Corn 1919.  In the U.S., anyway, horses raced about 2,3 4 years after birth.  Please correct me if I am wrong about that.) I got the top from U.K.
3
Horse
Racing
DISQ, 5-1,2-1,
8-1,6-1,4-1
Citation--Assault--Zev--
Whirlaway-- Man-O-War-- Stymie
no patent numbers, etc.  Quite lightwight. Aluminum.  Famous American horses. This top is not as old as the others. While Zev was born 1920, the others were born 1938 to 45.  All the horse on this top, except Stymie (who won a record fortune in second class races), won the Belmont stakes.
4
Horse
Racing
DISQ,5-1,4-1,
8-1,6-1,2-1
Grey Lag-Colin--
Man-O-War--Morvich-
Zev-Spark Plug

no engraved patent numbers, dates, etc. on the top -- perhaps worn away. Famous American race horses.  Colin b. 1908; the others were born 1919-23.

One seller on eBay said: "MAN O WAR DIED IN 1947 AT THE AGE OF 30 ... ...  SPARK PLUG WAS BARNEY GOOGLE'S RACE HORSE (1930'S CARTOON CHARACTER) .. .... GREY LAG BORN 1918, ... ... . COLIN-1905-1932, .. ...... ZEV- became the greatest money-winning racehorse in history. His earnings are now $302084 (1920'S), ... ..... MORVICH RACED IN 1920'S DIED IN 1947."
5
Horse
Racing
DISQ,5-1,2-1,
4-1,6-1,8-1
Lucky Hour-Bunting-
Colin--Man-O-War-
Morvich-Pillory

"Patented April 1921, No. 19(or 3)74243." Famous American Horses. Colin was born 1908; the others 1919-22.  Go figure. One eBay listing of this top said: "Man O' War, The greatest thoroughbred racehorse of all time... ...Morvich, 1920 winner of the Kentucky Derby ....Pillory, 1922 winner of the Preakness and Belmont Stakes ... ..Lucky Hour, Lexington Stable winner at Bellmont and Aqueduct .. ....Bunting, Whitney Stables winner at Saratoga and Belmont. ...... Colin, Undefeated champion. 1907-08 Horse of the year. #15 in the top 100 of U.S. racehorses of the 20th century."
6
Dice
2-4-1-5-3-6
3-6-2-4-1-5
For craps or any other dice game. The white thing on the top is a label.  I should have scanned another side, but didn't want to take another scan.
7
Put and
Take
Tag (means grip, take,grab)-Pott (pot)-Satt (to deposit,put)-Tag-Alla (all)-Satt
4-2-5-3-1-6
Sweedish put and take.
8
Put and
Take
P-T-P-T-P-T
3-1-A-2-4-0
""SPINIM," PAT'D APR 12- 21" Click here to see that patent and a drawing of the top, etc.
9
Dice
4-5-6-1-2-3
1-6-5-4-3-2
nothing engraved on top.
10
Dice
6-2-4-1-5-3
5-3-6-2-4-1
same as No. 8, above, on the top -- SPINIM, etc.
11
Dice
6-5-4-3-2-1
5-4-3-2-1-6
nothing engraved on the top. This top is unusual in that the numbers go in a natural sequence -- 6,5,4,3,2,1.  Usually the numbers are mixed up as on a roulette wheel.
12
Horse
Racing
1-1, 2-1, 6-1, 8-1, 5-1, 3-1
Red Fox, Fan Tan, My Pal, Jim Jo, Zev, Gay Pet
(query: other than Zev, I can't find  info on these horses.  Are they  actual race horses, what period?)
no mfgr info is engraved on the top. Both the top  (much bigger and heavier  than most: c. 1.5" x 1") and the canvas layout (30" x 5") are pictured below this table.  April 2008 I paid $210 total for both in the George Cross Collection live, gambling items auction on eBay. Till then I had never seen either.





left: a page from my F. & R. Co. catalog (circa 1900-1917)  advertising one of these bi-level horse racing tops (what I call #5 top, above) and betting layout.  When they spout, "a special top which is under control at all times," they mean the top is gaffed for cheating.  Note that the cheating top is $5.00 and the "fair top" (i.e., honest) is only $0.50.

right:  instructions (circa 1950s) from the K.C. Card Co., Chicago, which would accompany the item when ordered (for top #4).  (The rounded bottom panels must have been shaved in a certain way {either lower right or lower left rounded more than with a fair top} to produce the desired results.)






Bi-level poker top!  I had never seen this before till February 2009 when it went for $225 on eBay.  The seller described it as: "Bi-level poker top ...
1.5" tall by 3/4" wide ... ..The top level spins independently from the bottom.  [Hooray! I finally got a nice one on eBay for only $113 in March 2011.  Just goes to show that prices fluctuate, so you can wait for the right price (sometimes).]

"The top level reads TEN, NINE, ACE, KING, QUEEN, and JACK. The bottom half reads STRAI'T, FOUR, FLUSH, TWO, FULL HOUSE, and THREE.

"The patent number and date are worn to the point that it's illegible. The piece dates to the 1st half of the 1900's."

327 pix

Another bi-level top: the usual odds on top, but numbers 1 to 6 on the bottom instead of horse names or crown-anchor-spade-club-heart-duamond.

Football teams (British) bi-level top.  First time I saw this, on eBay Feb. 2008


Baseball bi-level top.  Dealer said, "Bottom die reads:  "Ball, Hit, Ball, Strike, Foul, Strike"
Top die reads:  "H.R., 1.B., 2.B., OUT, 3.B., OUT"... ... Measures approx 1 1/4" L .. ... Marked:  "PATENTED APRIL 1921 No. 1374243"

I won it in Oct 2010 for $62 delivered.

British seller old_devil says, "Teetotum type spinner, game unknown. ... .... ..... The white ring turns independently.

"top, 6 sides: 2 to 1, 3 to 1, 4 to 1, 5 to 1, DISQ, EVENS.

"bottom, 6 sides: THE FIELD, PANTHER, BLUE FLASH, WHITE LADY, GOLDEN EAGLE, RED KNIGHT.

"Made of celluloid or similar early plastic. ... ... .... . Height 1,5/8" or 47mm, diameter 7/8" or 23mm. ... ... ..... Guaranteed old and original."

British, saw on eBay August 2011.  Measures 1.5" long.  I spotted the names of three horses: Soranus,  Orpheus and Tishy.

Bi-level put and take top. No. 8 in the chart above. 1921.







 
MISCELLANEOUS OTHER TOPS


Golf Tops.  Per the dealer in the UK: "A nice vintage boxed set of Teetotum Spinning Tops . ... Faux shagreen style fitted box impressed Spingolf to the top left corner ... Containing five brightly coloured tops ... which represent 5 different golf clubs which are spun to obtain the result of each stroke ... Diameter of each approx 2 cm ... Length approx 4 cm ... Width of box approx 9 cm ... Length approx 10.5 cm ... Believe that originally there would have been a board game with the tops this has long gone." The five tops read (from above): masher, mid iron, driver brassie, mashie niblick, and putter.  Listed for $202 buy-it-now price in May 2011.





FOREIGN PUT AND TAKES   466 pix







Spanish language. I saw this on eBay in July 2008 as a $40 Buy-It-Now. " Vintage 6 sides put and take galalith spinning top. It reads in Spanish:  Toma 2, Pon 1, Toma todo, Pon 2, Toma 1, Todos ponen. It measures 1.68 x 0.8 inches. Tiny scratches for usage, otherwise excellent condition."

Translation:
Toma -- take
Pon -- put
Toma  todo -- it takes everything (spinner takes all)
Todos ponen -- all put (in a chip)


Argentina. Thanks to Marianne for the picture.  The top is made of orange "GALALITH," an early plastic made of milk. I have seen it in myriad colors.

Click here to see 9 more Spanish language GALALITH put and takes in different colors.

Argentina.  Galalith material?  Seller says, "VINTAGE "1950s, rare hard plastic marbled SPINNING TOP - PERINOLA (yellow & green)". Made in ARGENTINA Size 2" long approach. All in spanish.."  Perinola in Spanish is whirligig, spinner, top, etc.








Argentina.  I saw this neat P&T on eBay in October 2008, an auction listing starting at $99, went for $114 plus shipping from Argentina.  Seller described it as: "Description: Rare vintage teetotum / put-and-take. This unique six-sided gambling device is made solid bronze divided in six panels with incised [Spanish] letters on each side. The screwed top handle of this fine teetotum opens to reveal three tiny red dice that can probably be used in different games. Lanyard could be attached as the rounded top of handle has a hole thru. Unmarked, but very probably made in Argentina, ca. 1920's. Dimensions: 1-3/4" (4.5 cm) tall."






Mexican probably. Large wood spinners like this one are typical of Mexican put and takes.  Spanish-language, wooden Put and Take I bought on eBay April 2009.  It is approximately 3.5" x 2.5."   Per the auction description: "It's made of wood with painted black and red accents.  It has a metal tip and looks as though the numbers/words were stamped on it.  It does have a nick in the paint on the handle and some indentions on one of the sides that you can see in the pictures provided."!

Columbia.  Dealer says, "One plastic put and take spinning top (made in Colombia)."

United Kingdom -- offered on eBay Sept 2009.  Seller (ID: things_from_us) said old: "OLD IT WAS USED BY MY GRANDAD IN HIS PUB." Other sides read: "Take Pool," and "One Out." ..... ...... ......  I bought another one on eBay in June 2008: Seller in United Kingdom auctioning this 6-sided Put and Take on eBay in June 2008. I won the auction, paid $28 postpaid. The sides say: Take Pool, Two Out, One Out, Two In, All Pay and One In.

United Kingdom.  Splendid little boxed set; I rarely see put and takes in an original box like this.  The UK dealer described it as:

"I have never seen a celluloid version of this game before, and this is certainly a lovely example. ... It appears unplayed with ,complete with original box and instructions. ... Put or Take,Made by Mudie & Sons Ltd,15 Coventry St.,London. ... Dating I would think to the 1930s ... .The spinning dice is in perfect ,pristine condition and measures just over 1.5" in length."

Interesting that they call it on the box "PUT or Take" (not Put and Take).

United Kingdom.  Seller on eBay, grandsam100, in Oct 2009, said: "Early Put and Take Type Solid Brass Spinner measuring approx 1 1/4" long six sided with top section spinning independently from the bottom, good clean condition no knocks or tarnish, U.K"

United Kingdom advertising Put and Take.  eBay seller in UK: " Heavy white metal spinner. Very unusual advertising marked  'Come to Selfridges'. The store opened in 1909, so this is likely to date from that year."
 



United Kingdom The Tip Top.  The UK seller wanted  $360 buy-it-now for this.  In the picture to the left, the stem is not shown. Seller says, "A nice vintage tinplate gambling top. The Tip Top with three revolving central spinners, Length approx 4.5 cm, Width approx 2.5 cm, This piece is in all original pre-owned condition age related wear and marks to the tinplate, there are spots of rust it is not perfect - but it is unusual."


United Kingdom
. Called an "antique" by rog610 of the UK, who placed it in auction April 2010.  It went for $62 plus postage.  He said in auction description: "This is a brass gambling top, much favoured by troops in the victorian era and later in the trenchs during WW1.   Made of solid Brass it measures just over 1 inch high by 1/2 inch dia. .... The six flat side facets read : ONE IN, TWO OUT,  ALL PAY,  ONE OUT,  TWO IN, and   GRAB ALL."

United Kingdom.  Dealer in the UK, godblessthismess, says for Feb. 6, 2011 auction, "This vintage chrome plated brass "Put & Take" spinning top gambling game were all the rage in the 1920/30's period and measures 1.25 inches in length."

Looks like it has 8 sides.  These sides were pictured: all in one, pool, all in two, two in, two out, and one out.

United Kingdom.  EBay seller, starterforten, in UK says, "Six sided brass vintage Put & Take gambling top.

More unusual wording than normal : TAKE POOL, ALL PAY etc and milled handle.

Just over 1.1/8" long weight 20 grams.

Spins well. Very good condition. "

United Kingdom.  Note how the term "give" is used instead of "put."

United Kingdom.   Another one of these.  Saw it March 2011 on eBay.  Bid up to $150 with a day to go still!  I wish someone would explain the rules for these to me.  The 8 sides read:
pool
all in one
all in two
san farian
one in
one out
two in
two out

[Note: an E. Kane was kind enough to search the web and email me this (from a thread at the Birmingham History Forum): "Finally found what I have been searching for in an old 1918 Newspaper San Farian (Tommy's "Translation" of ca ne faitrein.....It Doesn't Matter ) Put and Take ...a gambling craze played with a tee-to-tum (see photo) It was played for any stake and each player in turn span it and followed the direction which fell uppermost Take out or put in .....San Farian entitled the player to another spin. "]

United Kingdom (?). I first saw this on eBay Nov. 2010, offered by a UK seller.  It went for $67 plus postage.  Seller described it as "ANTIQUE PUT & TAKE SPINNING GAME IN BRASS @ 1900. ... ....  2 1/4 inches across by 1 /2 inch tall."

United Kingdom.  Submitted by Brian Norman of the UK.  He said, "presumably a home made brass table top put and take spinner.
Pictures attached - it is 6 inches across and stands on 3 (legs) each 1.25
inches high. Sadly missing the pointer. .... It has the look and feel of an early piece of workmanship - probably 1920's or earlier - all letters have been stamped on individually."

One of the outcomes is interesting/unusual: "take half."

United Kingdom.  Yummy, nice thick one.  Plus it shows what a good picture can do.  Went for $52 plus postage in Jan 2012; I was outbid.

Seller describes it as, "This has a very thick spinning handle. ... Lovely old 6 sided spinner - 1 and 1/8th of an inch tall."

United Kingdom.  Don't know how this would work or what it was made for.  The P2, TA, etc., sides are for Put and Take, of course.  But why the other inscriptions?

Seller said in listing, "A nice vintage brass put and take dice game ... Six sided FN Cars, Motor Cycles ... Length approx 4 cm ... Width approx 2 cm ... 2.5 cm = 1."

I notice from the pictures that:
¶ P2 and AP sides say "cycles."
¶ TA and P1 sides say "motor cycles."
¶ T1 and T2 sides say "cars."

FN was one of Belgium's longest-lived car makers, as it built cars between 1899 and 1939, albeit in rather small quantities. FN stands for Fabrique National d'Armes de Guerre and, as the name suggests, it was mainly engaged in building armaments. ...   Production of FN motorcycles continued until 1965, and production of trucks until 1970.

United Kingdom.  Per seller, " Vintage In and Out spinning top / dice game.  In excellent condition.  27 mm. x 14mm. dia."

Interesting in that some sides have the inscription vertical (1 IN, 1 OUT), and at least one side has it horizontal (ALL IN).
   
France. "This old solid brass spinning dice measures 1 1/8 inches long and is in a very good condition. No damage. The 6 sides are marked:
 
¶ Galeries Lafayette -- take all
¶ Prenez1 -- take 1
¶ Mettez 1 -- put 1
¶ Mettez Chacun -- "put each one" -- all put
¶ Prenez 2 -- take 2
¶ Mettez 2 -- put 2

Click to see the original old instruction sheet and original box. ("Toupie" means top/spinner or whirlgig.) c. 1935.

Seller told me "Galeries Lafayette is a famous chain of shops in France. I believe they've been around for over 100 years. I've previously sold antique shop advertising handles with their name and mark on them." Click here for pictures and description of this fabulous French department store -- perhaps the most magnificent department store (grand magasin, en francais) on the planet.

I won the auction -- $32 plus shipping.

France.  Dealer sullycha in Belgium said: "VINTAGE BRONZE FRENCH SPINNING TOP (BAR GAME).

"DETAILS: 6 FACES (Mettez un [put one] - prenez tout [take all] - mettez deux [put two] - prenez un [take one] - mettez tous [put all/all put] - prenez deux [take two])

"ANCIENNE TOUPIE EN BRONZE. JEUX DE CAFE. DETAIL VOIR CI-DESSUS."

French.  Dealer said, "Three rare wooden put & take
gambling spinning top (french)."

German.  Per seller:  
6 panel Put and Take dreidel in German.
Older item, made of solid brass.
Machine cut knurled spinning grip.
Sides are:
   NIMM 1  (take1)
   NIMM 2  (take 2)
   NIMM ROMA (take everything)
   Setze 1  (put 1)
   Setze 2  (put 2)
   Jeder Setze  (everybody put)

I won it for $48 on eBay January 2011.

German.   Nimm alles (take everything), Gib Zwei (give two).

German.  Per seller:
RARE EARLY SILVER PUT & TAKE DIE/DICE ENGRAVED with CUP
NIM ALLES, LA STEHEN,NIM EINES, NIM HALB, SETZ ZV, BELL. ... .... This piece is wonderful. While it is not marked, it looks to me to be silver, and considering its age and use, the fact that it shows no wear tends to indicate to me that it is sivler through out. Irregardless of its content, this is a wonderful object and will nto be tested with acid by me. It is , from my research, an old put and take gambling die. It is about .75 of an inch to a side.One side is bent, the side with NIMS HALB.and one side of the side that says NIM ALLES. 

It went for $271 at auction!

Click here for another picture.
 
German Put and Takes.  Left: made of heavy plastic, well used.  The sides read:
Nimm 1 (take 1),
Gib 2 (give 2),
Nimm alles (take everything),
Gib 1 (give 1),
Nimm 2 (take 2), and
Alle geben (everything give).

Right: made of wood.

Greek.  Dealer says, "For sale is a great vintage small SPINNING TOP from GREEK. ... This game was very popular around the 1970s and 1980s in Greece.... The game is called "PARTA OLA" (TAKE IT ALL) and it is actually a lucky / gambling game. ... The toy is available in 4 different colors RED / BLUE / YELLOW / GREEN."

A Greek person told me: "Clockwise from the 1:00 (red) position: Take 2, Put 1, Take all, Put 2, Take 1, All put. .... Pronounced: Pare, valte, parta ola, vale, pare, valte olie."

Greek -- modern Put and Take.  Made by Parta Ola ("Take All") Tops, established in 2006. They say their  "aluminum tops are precision machined for accurate balancing and excellent spinning capabilities. Each of our colored tops are hard-anodized for lasting color, and all tops are CNC engraved. Tops are available in Greek and English."

The English spinners made by this company say on the sides: all put, put 1, put 2, take all, take 1, take 2.
  
Greek -- modern Put and Take. See row above.

The 6 sides (shown to the left here) translate to: TAKE ALL / TAKE 1 / TAKE 2 / ALL PUT / PUT 1 / PUT 2.

Italian. June 2011, I saw this on British eBay.  Dealer said, "This little brass game spinner which is Italian in origin is an example that I have not had or seen before and over the years I had several different brass game spinners but I have never had this example before . The game spinner is marked with the numbers 1, 2 , 3, 4, 5 and the word SARTI on the sides . On the top it is stamped  [MESSICANO (?)]."  

English translation of "Sarti" is "tailors."  Why?  Italian word "MESSICANO" means "Mexican." ??

Gerrit emailed me this info: "...Messicano Sarti  is a Liquer brand  - .... about the first advertising around 1922  Messicano L'apperitivo Sarti."

Italian. "VINTAGE GAMBLING GAME TAKE AND PUT

 TAKE AND PUT WITH ITALIAN INSTRUCTIONS -46 mms long

PAGA 1 (pay 1).
VINCE TUTTO (win all).
PAGA2 (pay 2).
VINCE1 (win 1).
TUTTI PAGANO (pay all) .
VINCE 2 (win 2)," per seller, my translations.

Hong Kong.
¶ these must have been made for charm bracelets or Cracker Jack-like prizes.
¶  says "Cosmo ... Hong Kong" on the back.
¶ Great Collectors Items. .. ...Upon shake, Mini Metal Marble stops in one of 6 Red (Put) or 6 Black (Take) numbered slots. ... Made in Hong Kong. ...All have Loops.
¶ there are two types to choose from: (1) 1/4" (2/8") high, in red and yellow; ...  and (2) 3/8" high, in green and yellow.  Both types are shown here.
¶ I have some of these for sale on my Put and Take Sales Page.

Ottoman Turkey.  Per eBay seller: "antique Ottoman Turkey gambling game ''Put&Take'' brass spinning top. Six sided top engraved in Turkish language. Size:30mm x 15mm. Condition: excellent antique condition, hot patina on brass."

Turk.  I found the picture at the website of ARJAN VERWEIJ here .

Armenia.  Person who owns this said recently, "This Amenar [spinner] has been in our family about 100 years."  The Republic of Armenia is a mountainous country in South Caucasus. .... Geographically, the country belongs to Asia, but in cultural and historical aspects sees itself as belonging to Europe. Armenia is  considered to be the oldest Christian state of the world. ... Armenia is since 2001 member of the Council of Europe .  The country borders Georgia , Azerbaijan , Iran and Turkey . The capital Yerevan was founded in 782 BC and is one of the oldest cities in the world.




Netherlands.  Part of the collection of Marianne Jager of the Netherlands, picture sent to me in November 2011.



United Kingdom.  Wonderful boxed top set I bought from Gerrit Veldhoen, Netherlands.    Circa 1935. Elsewhere on the box they are called three "Joy Tops."  Another panel on the box says, "The 'PA-DI-CA-CO" Tops, made by The Patent Die-Casting Co., Ltd., 64 Strode Road, Willesden Green, London, N.W. 10."




French. I saw this on eBay March 2008 -- top has 8 sides.  I could make out these sides: 1/M, 24/P, 13/P, 10/P, 36/P, and I think 12/P. Description: " RARISSIME ET ANCIEN JEU DE COMPTOIR !! - Jeu de bistrot de la fin du XIXème - TOUPIE ROULETTE BTé SGDG - Roulette de comptoir, 8 facettes (voir photos) - Jeu d'une très grande rareté!!! , très bon état, tourne parfaitement, hauteur : 1,5cm - BONNES ENCHERES !!! -"





French.  Not a Put & Take, but similar interesting gambling top with 8 sides.  Click here to see the original box and three-language (French; English and Spanish) instruction sheet for this item, called "Amusing Top" by the French manfacturer.  

In April 2011, dealer put $100 starting bid on it.  He described it as, "ANTIQUE AND VINTAGE  8 SIDED "PUT AND TAKE" GAMBLING SPINNING TOP VERY RARE , ALSO IS A PERFUME MINIATURE ... it seems is usefull for many gambling playing , because on each side it has diferent symbols , likes classic dots of dies playing , or diferent colours horses jumping , or diferent colours dots . Besides into the body it has little perfume receiving , then pushing it down sprays some of fragrance . It measures  1-1/4" , the body its seems bone , but I am not sure . Some symbols , specially the horses , are lightly discolouration . On the top cover is stamped "Made in France Deposse Bijou" , Is very rare piece !!"




Modern Put and Takes        496 pixels



This is a modern Put and Take (maker calls it a "spinner" and "dreidel")  that I first noticed appearing on eBay in October 2008.  It is lightweight, made of aluminum, and has a hole in the stem to accommodate a key chain.  The letters are "blacked in" for easy reading.




¶ Another modern put and take, sold in U.K.

¶ two other modern put and takes are the first two on my sales page.



¶ Another modern one, sold in the U.K.  This one has 10 sides!

¶ Seller says: "As usual it has the following markings: Put One, Take One, Put Two, Take Two, Take All, All Put. As this is ten sided it also has Put Three, Take Three, Put Five, and Spin Again."

¶ same UK seller as above.  8-sided and 6-sided Put & Takes, and die.
¶ He states in eBay auction, "This listing is for the Classic six sided solid brass spinning top game Put and Take. Buy it now price is for ONE reproduction only (not original). Although if you keep it in your pocket for a few days it will tarnish and take its newness away. ... I have had a brass put and take for many years, and played the game since I was 10 years old, previously it belonged to my father. ... This Put & Take is ... new, with nice engraving. ... Also available as eight sided and ten sided Put & Take. ...  See also Unusual hexagonal spinning dice (brass) .

Saw this on eBay Jan 2011.  Seller, illinoisvalleycustoms1.

Seller says, "INCLUDED IN THIS SET ARE FOUR SETS OF DICE.  EACH SET IS HANDCRAFTED RIGHT HERE IN THE ILLINOIS VALLEY BY OUR MASTER CRAFTSMAN AND OFFERED AT A DISCOUNTED PRICE IN THIS COMBINATION SET.  THE DICE IN THIS SET REPRESENT THE FOUR MOST POPULAR STYLES OF DICE IVC HAS TO OFFER AND ALL MADE FROM SOLID BRASS.  INDIVIDUALLY THESE SAME SETS SELL FOR OVER $50.00.  THESE DICE ARE NOT BRASS PLATED OR PAINTED, THEY ARE 100% REAL CUSTOM MACHINED BRASS.  YOU ARE PURCHASING A SET OF DICE THAT SCREAM “I’M SERIOUS ABOUT MY GAMING”.  FEEL FREE TO ASK ANY AND ALL QUESTIONS.

 THE DICE INCLUDED IN THIS COMBO DEAL ARE AS FOLLOWS:
*SET OF TWO ¾” SOLID BRASS SPINNING HEX TOP D6 PIP

*SET OF TWO 5/8” SOLID BRASS LONG LOG ROLLER D6 PIP

*SET OF TWO ¾” SOLID BRASS FLOATING D6 PIP

*SET OF TWO ¾” SOLID BRASS STANDARD D6 PIP



Another modern one I saw on eBay, August 2009. Seller, historyfanatic, from Charleston IN,  said, "While this top is made to replicate an original IVORY top, ours is reproduced in a resin-based artificial ivory. "  He called it a copy of a Revolutionary War one!








Bone.
 These have been around for quite a while, usually labeled as "vintage" or "antique."  I took these pictures from one honest eBay seller, who described the set as,    "This is a contemporary made game of chance for "Put and Take". Includes the carrying case and (2) game pieces. Made from bone. Very well detailed. The case is replicated to look like a wicker basket. The basket measures 2 1/2" long x 1 3/4" wide x 1 1/4" tall. Hinged lid opens to reveal the 2 game pieces. Each are made of bone and feature black & red colored barrel shaped die & "Put & Take" spinning top piece. Each piece is approx. 1 3/4" long. Excellent condition."

The dealer describes these as: "Up for auction is a very high quality machined aluminum anodized Put and Take GAMENUT Dreidel dice/die.

This patent pending design is precision balanced and the smooth rounded patent pending spin-tip will not mar surfaces.

Lettering is Laser engraved and will not peel off.

Each piece weighs in at a heft .3 ounces and provides enough weight to keep the die spinning for over two minutes if you'd like. We've had 2:24 seconds as our best spin."




Dealer, in eBay August 2009 auction description, says: "... .... A box of 1 dozen 3/4" dice for the game Put & Take etched in black, red and blue.
Directions for P & T are included. ... .... Proudly made at the Crisloid factory in Providence, RI."

Dealer told me: "I am not sure, but it is not old. Probably form 90's.Thanks,E."

"Put & Take spinning top / Teetotum

Wooden handmade, eigth sides 4,5cm long and 2,2cm diameter

TA: take all  T3: take three  P1: Put one  T2: Take two

AP: All put   P3: Put three  T1: Take one  P4: Put four

Spin well, 40 seconds over glass surface"

"New spinning top for Parta Ola (Put and Take), the traditional spinning top game. Hand lathed of aluminum, well balanced for long spins. English lettering is CNC-engraved and hand painted. Great game for the whole family. This auction includes one aluminum top, instruction card, and small fabric gift bag. The perfect gift!," as described by eBay seller rembet33 in Oct 2009. 

per eBay seller, March 2010: "Well, I came up with a design and had it made and now am selling it to other Put and Take enthusiasts looking for an ultimate game experience that can be carried with you wherever you go.  Okay, I'll even sell it to anyone else who might want it so don't feel left out.  So, here it is, the ultimate put and take die!!  It's an ivory colored 12 sided (D12 to the gamer community) 16mm die and the sides, in no particular order, are engraved as follows:

Put 1, Put 2, Put 3, All Put, Put All, Lose Turn
Take 1, Take 2, Take 3, All Take, Take All, Roll Again"

Modern, sold now on the internet.

Mexican, made currently. Wood, metal tip.


Modern crooked (gaffed) Put & Take.   "A gaffed gambling device increases your odds to 90% accuracy! The six sided spinner contains a P1, P2, P3, and a T1, T2, T3, The P's mean you put in 1, 2 or 3 dollars, the T's mean you TAKE," says the dealer of these tops.  The "secret" is somewhat similar to the three red celluloid Put & Takes near the top of this page:  if a player (the mark) twists the top to the right (clockwise) --as most players would-- it will almost always land with the "Put" sides showing, and if the hustler, who knows the secret, twists the top to the left (counter-clockwise), the top invariably lands with the "Take" sides showing. The red celluloid tops worked that way because the lower portion of the sides were rounded in such a way to force the desired outcome.  The white plastic one here is weighted on the inside for each of the six sides so as to force the desired outcome depending on whether the operator twists the stem to the right or left.

"Gold Rush" Put and Take.  Saw this April 2011 on Ebay.  Dealer said, "The contents of the game are the metal dreidel, 10 authentic Gold nugget replicas, rulebook with a very short history of the California gold rush, and a canvas pouch to hold it all.  A Fast paced & easy to learn game for 2 or more players, new unopened condition. From Channel Craft Company, Made in U.S.A., Original price tag from the Mel Fisher Museum of $10.95."

Old Western -- New.  Seller says, "Gambling 8 sided put-n-take top carried by all early 1800"s gamblers, a game could be started anywhere with someone putting money into a pool and spinning the top. Originals of these tops are hard to find today, these are made exactly as the originals and after they tarnish, will look exactly like an original does."

New.  Saw this oneBay June 2011.  Per dealer, "Made from solid brass, this six-sided Put & Take measures 1.25" long by 7/8" wide.  It features a knurled stem for easy spinning and its heavy 1.6oz weight will aid in long spin time.  Letters are engraved for longevity.  Take a stylish game/casino anywhere you go!

"Side Engravings: AP, TA, P1, P2, T1, T2."

Card Game: Put and Take. Per dealer: "This card game is a variation from the simple dice or top games designed to risk pieces of candy, coins or a few bucks. 54 cards contain instructions to put or take playing pieces with the pot or other players. A few of the cards contain new instructions that can radically change the outcome. The game finishes when one player has all of the pieces. Entertaining for kids and adults. Great game to have when family comes over for the holidays."

Sold at this web site: playingcardsetc.com

"Rocky Top."  Unusual the way the two characters on each side are deliberately mis-aligned, never saw that before.  Also, the bottom is rounded, no "nipple" or point to spin on. I first saw this February 2012.

"Top is NEW 1 and 1/4 inches tall

Hand Machined of solid Brass and Polished

Made in the U.S.A. By Me.," per seller.



Miscellaneous Put and Takes, Tops -- look modern
 

I saw these for the first time August 25, 2010, on eBay in two auctions with starting bids of about $65 each. Seller ID 1knifeguy1 (West Coast Trading Post) of Fairfield, CA, calls them "vintage" brass Put and Takes and lists them many times.

Also called vintage and listed many times by the same seller.  Called by the eBay seller: antique, brass, hollow in the inside, and no "top cover."  June 2010.  Dealer said in part: "Unusual Antique brass gambling device called a "Put and Take". This tiny device (only about 1 3/16" tall x 5/8" wide; weights only .2 oz.!) ... .... ... this piece has a brass rod that appears to be pressed into the inside of the base; and doesn't appear to have ever had, or needed, a top covering piece. This piece has light patina on the brass, and a greenish verdigris on the inside. Perfect for any gambling, gaming, or put & take collection / display."

Same seller, also called vintage with many listings.  Seller says: "UNUSUAL NICKEL PLATED ANTIQUE PUT&TAKE GAMBLING DEVICE . .. ... Antique gambling device called a "Put and Take". This small gaming device is unusual in that it is nickel plated, about 1 1/8" tall x 11/16" wide, and weights a mere .2 oz.."

"NICE OLD [?] PUT AND TAKE SOLID BRASS SPINNER IN EXCELLENT CONDITION, ALL THE NUMBERS & LETTERS ARE ALL ALMOST PERFECT, NO MAJOR DENTS. IT MEASURES ABOUT 1 3/8" LONG X 3/4" AT IT'S WIDES POINT" per dealer  LAMB 534, May 2011.

This is the worst put and take I have ever seen.  For one thing, it won't spin, ever.  The letter/numbers are poorly stamped.  Purported to be vintage.

Sides read: TA, P2, T1, T2, AP, P1.


  
   


Put and Take Sheet Music

Wonderful Put and Take theme on a sheet music cover, on eBay August 2009, bid up to $106.00.  I don't own it, came in second. "Sheet music. PUT AND TAKE is a song about gambling away his money playing Put and Take. Copyright 1921. 1/2" tear through all pages top left (in the "U"). Light fold in the center. Six pages."

More old Put and Take sheet music.  Sold on eBay, Oct 2009, by bixokeh, who described it as, "Scarce sheet music for "My June Love" from the stage production "Put and Take" Music by Spencer Williams, lyrics by Irvin Miller, published by Perry Bradford Music, 1921." I own one of these from the "Put and Take" stage production -- virtually same cover, though mine has the sheet music for "Nervous Blues," not "My June Love."

Per dealer: "from the Broadway Production of "Put and Take" - which went on to tour as "Broadway Rastus".... ...... 1921 Sheet Music of Alex Sullivan, Jimmy Flynn, and Harry Rosenthal"









Teach them while they are young.  I bought this on eBay, August 2009.  "Put In, Take Out."  Seller said, "THIS SWEET LITTLE BOOK IS IN GOOD CONDITION. SHOWS WEAR ON THE CORNERS AND THE SPINE. INSIDE IS VERY CLEAN NO TEARS OR MARKS. ILLUSTRATION ARE SO SWEET. OUTSIDE OF BOOK NEEDS A GOOD CLEANING. 12 PAGES 6"X4". PICTURES BY JAN PLAMER.  GOLDEN  PRESS,NEW YORK 1983


Boxed Put and Take Theme Games, & Cards  








Edgar Bergen's CHARLIE McCARTHY Put And Take Bingo by Whitman 1938
--  Saw this on eBay, August 2009.  Opening bid was about $22.00 postpaid.  I didn't bid.  Dealer wasn't too helpful with details.  I had no idea what it entailed.  I was turned off by the big size of the item: "The size of the box is 9"x15"."  The description said: ""A game of chance with dice and chips." Box top has staining, major corner and edgewear, one torn side and a small amount of graphic loss at one corner, otherwise solid. Contents are COMPLETE and in excellent condition."


3 Vintage POLITICAL PUT & TAKE 1960 Dice Games.
 I saw this on eBay, August 2009. I'm not sure how it is played and what the dice look like.  The dealer wasn't very helpful in answering questions.  His description:
"3 vintage 1960 (dated) Put and Take political dice game. Consists of a 9" tall cardboard sheet with directions and two dice showing various anatomical feature of the donkey and the elephant. Even if you don't like the game, this deal is worth it for the dice."  It was listed as buy-it-now for about $20.00 postpaid.

Put and Take Advertising Card.  Seen on eBay  December 2009.  Seller said, "Put and Take game, given away by Sanitary Valet System, NYC. With working spinner at right. Obsolete gambling article. Condition: minor soiling; some wear on printed circle. Minor edge, corner tip wear. Otherwise VG. 2 1/2" X 4 3/8"

Put and Take Advertising sign.  It is 7.5 inches by 4.25 inches. Taped to the back of the sign is the profit chart per set of 1200 "tickets" on a spindle. The player would have to unwrap the ticket to see the results.

Kind of bold for a store owner to put up a sign like that.  Pull tabs, spindle tickets and punch boards would be illegal in most places.

1930s-40s?

Note it says "Put or Take." The ones below say "Put 'n' Take and Put-n-Take.  Often: Put & Take.

Dealer said, "No information on the manufacturer or actual date made, perhaps 50s or 60s. Bar-Zim Manufacturing Co was out of Jersey city, NJ. Product is Made in the USA. ... ... .... The box is 12" x 10" x 2"."

Electric Put and Take game.  I own this, $30.00.  It actually works, with a "D" battery.  You press down on the little red knob at the lower righrt to get the two "rotors" (wheels) to spin -- the "number rotor" (numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5) and the "color rotor" (put, take and take all).  There are instructions printed on the inside of the top of the box.

Vintage / Antique Game

ELECTRIC PUT-N-TAKE

by Jim Prentice

The Electric Game Co. Inc., Holyoke, Mass. followed by model number (54-P) and U S patent #.

Transogram Put'n Take dart game.  Per eBay seller in Nov. 2011: "Vintage Transogram Put'n Take dart game in old box. Box is bent out of shape and had some water damage in one corner. Darts have been colored black and the rubber heads are broke. The 22" board is in good shape and so is the hardware that holds it up. Comes with instructions."

Click here and here to see the darts and the box for this game.
It looks like the darts could be thrown while the target was spinning!

Dicta-Put. Dealer says, "The box measures 4 3/4 inches square by 2 1/4 inches deep. some light wear on the box, everything else is like new condition. this game is dated 1936."  Unusual, so I got it on eBay (only 1 bid, mine) for $50 plus poastage.
It is made by Dictacard, Inc., Mishawaka, Ind., USA.

(The same company also makes a very similar game called "Dicta-Race," which comes with a gambling gadget, like seen to the left, and a layout with the names of six horses on it.  The "gambling gadget" has two balls and two circles of slots for the ball to land; one circle gives the name of the winning horse and the other gives the pay-off.)





Both of the above games are by W. H. Schaper Mfg. Co. Inc., Minneapolis 11, Minn, copyright 1956. ... ... .. Upper one: the box is 8.5 x 11 x 1."  From left to right, I show the outside box cover, the inside including chips and black plastic put and take top in the lower left, and the instructions on the inside of the top of the box... ..... Lower one: about 9 x 11 x 3".





Put and Take Card, both sides shown.  Interesting trade or premium card where one could cut out the body of a put and take top, but hardly worth the $300 buy-it-now price on eBay, May 2011.  That's what you get when those silly grading companies go to work and seal products in plastic holders.  It is also what happens when eBay has those no-fee special promotions.





Miscellaneous Vintage Put and Takes
(actually, all the put and takes on this page are vintage unless labeled as modern)
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Seller on eBay (Aug 2009) called this one "old."  He said: "I have never owned this particular style put n take, so it must be hard to find. Made of celluloid or French Ivory, the top measures about 1 7/8 inches across and 1 1/4 inches tall. Good condition."

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Put and Take Dice in Charm or Pendant -- I reveived a picture of this from the owner in Feb. 2010.  He said, " I came across a set of Put and take dice in a pendant which I think is brass. I didn't know what they were for years until I found info on Put and Take tops and games on the internet. I have searched tirelessly but can not find any similar to the ones I have. They belonged to my Grandfather and were mixed in with war medals and other keepsakes.  The dice are green stone of some sort with white lettering and the pendant is possibly brass that opens at the top and has a eye for a chain I believe. ...   I think it might be too heavy for a bracelet. The case is 1 inch long by 1/2 inch wide and the dice are 7/16 wide with precision edges. I would like to try to identify the type of stone the dice are made of and also the type of medal the holder is made of. It belonged to a male so I don't think it was a charm. "

Silver Put and Take.  April 2010 eBay.  Dealer said, "DESCRIPTION: THIS IS AN ANTIQUES VICTORIAN PUT AND TAKE SPINNING TOP IN GOOD CONDITION. TOP READS PUT ONE, TAKE ONE, ALL PUT, TAKE ALL, PUT 2, PUT ONE. TOP LOOKS TO BE SOLID SILVER BUT NOT SURE. ... ... ....MEASUREMENT: IT MEASURES 1 1/4 INCHE LONG AND IT WEIGHS 16.7 GRAMS."

Silver Put and Take.  EBay dealer called it a dreidel.  He said, "Up for auction is a Sterling Silver Dreidel. .. .. Dreidel is in great shape. It weighs 5.2 grams."
... .... I paid about $50 for this delivered.

It's unusual for a number of reasons:
¶ it is one of those rare "left-handed" put and takes: you have to hold the finial (stem) in your left hand to read the sides. Usually, you use your right hand.
¶ It has 8 sides, but the sides are inscribed in words (put 1, take 2, etc.), not the usual letters (P1, T2, etc.)
¶ it is made of silver and has the maker's mark and "sterling" inscribed on it.

Sterling with embossed markings, tall: 1-5/8."  " BEAUTIFUL VINTAGE STERLING SILVER DREIDEL ... INSTEAD OF HEBREW LETTERS THE SIX SIDES IT HAS THE FOLLOWING ON EACH SIDE: A STAR, P1 (PUT 1), T2 (TAKE 2) O, T1 (TAKE 1) AND P2 (PUT 2) .. ... .... THE DREIDEL MEASURES APPROXIMATELY 1 5/8” X ¾," per seller.

Milkglass Put and Takes. Poor picture.  "These are vintage Milk Glass Spinners made in Japan."

¶ very RARE left-handed brass Put and Take.  Hardly ever see left-handed ones.  Note that as you read it, the stem is on the left side! (I have only 1 or 2 left-handed ones in my personal collection.)
¶ 1-1/8"
¶ 6-sided: all put, take two, put one, take all, put two, and take one.
¶ spins well enough with each attempted spin.

Small put and take charm, I bought.  3/4" diameter.
Seller described it as: "HERE WE HAVE A VINTAGE GUMBALL CHARM OF A COOL LITTLE GAME CALLED "TAKE PUT"!! THIS CHARM IS A CIRCA 1960'S GUMBALL PRIZE! SO ADORABLE WITH AN INTACT LOOP! LOOK AT THE ITSY BITSY STEEL BB INSIDE TO PLAY ON THE DETAILED PAPER BOARD! THIS CHARM IS A MUST HAVE FOR YOUR COLLECTION AND IS MADE OF PLASTIC AND PAPER! "

Unusual wording. eBay dealer, Sept 2010: "AN ANTIQUE BRASS 1.1/16THS INCH LONG." The sides, in no particular order, read: grab all, one in, all pay, one out, two out, all pay.

Squat, unusual one I own.  I love it.  It is very squat (exacxtly an inch high).  six-sided, it uses 2 characters on each side instead of the usual words (for 6-sided ones).  The side read: TA, P1, P2, AP, T1, T2.

Squat, unusual.

Sterling Silver Put and Take.  Here are more pictures of this kind of Put and Take.  The first picture shows a silver mark: here and here .

14-sided put and takes.  Picture is from the collection of Justin Michell.
  



Sterling Silver Put and Take. "14 sided Put & Take Dice, Sterling Silver, marked 925. measures 3/4 inch high and wide," per dealer. The 14 sides are:
¶ the star (take all).
¶ the zero (all put).
¶ a series of 6 sides (T6, P4, etc.)
¶ another series of 6 sides (P3, T5, etc.)


Sterling Silver Put and Take.  Note the notation "STERLING" in the first picture, and the British hallmark.



Sterling Silver Put and Take.  Dealer describes it as, "This auction is for a vintage sterling silver Dreidel charm.  Use on a bracelet or necklace.  Give as a gift for Hanukkah..... measures 2" and weighs 3.7 g. "

Sterling, 8-sided.  Dealer said, "Antique Sterling Silver 8 Sided Put & Take Dreidel,  Circa - 1900's, Stamped Sterling, Weighs 11 grams, Measures Approx. 1-1/2 inches long, In excellent condition - nice patina."

Embossed lead metal Put and Take --  embossed letters stand out in relief, unusual for a put and take  --  I saw this on eBay May 2009; they wanted $60.00 buy-it-now.  Per description: "Embossed lead metal Put and Take --  embossed letters stand out in relief, unusual for a put and take.  Per listing description: "Antique gambling device called a "Put and Take". This one is the same size & shape of others that are similar; however, this one is made from cast lead. It undoubtedly was less expensive at the time than the more common cast brass style, but is also more scarce and unusual. These typically date to the late 19th century through the first part of the 1900s. This small device ( about 1 3/16" tall x 9/16" wide; weight .4 oz.) has nice, natural aged patina, and was carried in the pocket by Men who could initiate a gambling game almost anytime and anywhere; and could be played by any number of 2 or more Men. The game consists of all participants putting the same amount of money in the "Pot". Then, each gambler would spin the top (the Put & Take), and the spinning top would land on one of it's 6 flat surfaces, with the top flat surface designating the luck (or unluckiness) of the gamblers to do one of 6 actions. The 6 possible actions on the 6 flat surfaces are; TAKE ONE, TAKE ALL, TAKE TWO, PUT TWO, ALL PUT, & PUT ONE. This gambling game would continue until one participant would "TAKE ALL"; then the gamblers would again all put $ in the pot and continue the game. This was a very popular form of spontaneous gambling among Men, as this small pocket gambling device was small, portable, simple, and easy to understand and participate... ....."

sold for about $50.00 on eBay, February 2010.  Not mine, but I have similar.

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I bought these two for $84 on eBay, February 2010.  Unusual to find embossed (stand out in relief) letters and numbers. (The one on the left is the standard incised one -- "engraved."

Wonderful little boxed set: 2 put and take dice, and a typical brass put and take solid top. In August 2010, I got this for just $28 on eBay.

Upside-down lettering on brass put & take.  Never saw this before.  Maybe no one else did either, as I got it for $14 on eBay, March 2008.

Another one -- very unusual -- inscriptions are upside-down.  From a seller in the U.K.  Notice how the numbers and letters are in the opposite direction than usual.

O-BOY Bonne Chance Metal Toy Roulette Spinner -- 1-1/2" across.  A wonderful put and take -- it uses the term  "win" instead of  "take," and "lose" instead of "put."  To see the name and New York City manufacturer on the reverse side click here. For side view, click here.



AUTOGIRO is the name of this device.  Dealer says, "This fun gambling POCKET GAME ... is dated 'Pat. 8-28-28'. The game plays just like ... 'put and take'.  You use the Autogieo by pressing in the finger fitted button at the end and the roulette style wheel spins until it stops on either a put/take/or all. The Autogieo is then passed to the next player. This toy novelty is made of Bakelite [?] plastic with a beautiful enameled brass roulette wheel that spins when you push in the plunger. Autogiro measures 4 1/4 by 2 1/4 inches. Comes in the original box (2 1/2 x 4 1/2 inches) with directions and Roulette chart on the back."

Better explanation: to spin it, you hold the device in one hand.  Your index and middle finger rest against the two "wings" near the round wheel, and you press the "plunger" with your thumb. It spins very well.  Good game.



Put & Take with Spinning Tray -- I bought this on eBay Sept. 2010.  Never saw one before.  Dealer described it as:
"At auction today is a vintage Put and Take game of chance with a Birdseye Maple tray. The little brass spinning top has six sides marked Put One, Put Two, All Put, Take One, Take Two, and Take All. The Birdseye Maple tray is made of one piece of wood with nice graining and a raised edge that keeps the top from spinning off. Both pieces are in good used condition, the top spins nicely and has no breaks and only a few small dings to the brass, the tray has some expected minor scratching and scuffing. The top is just 1-3/16" long, the tray is 9" in diameter."

It arrived, and I am very happy with it.  If you spin the top and it gets close to the edge, it does NOT immediately tumble and stop -- rather, it  just moves away from the edge and continues spinning, for the most part, and then it collapses and stops.

"unusual Put & Take spinner. As you can see from the pictures the top section pulls out slightly to allow the user to place the 6 to 8 small plastic balls contained within the body of the spinner, into the grooves. The spinner is marked 2 - 10 - 4 - 12 - 6 - 8 - 1 - 14 along the top rim and 1 - 2 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 2 - 1 - 1 below the first line of numbers - these number correspond to a groove. .. ..... Measures 1.5"* long and 1" in diameter.," per the seller,

This picture was emailed to me January 2007.  The sender said, " It's from 1982 and was made by a company called BOJO's.  ... ..... .....   The top breaks down and you can move the tumblers off and on, depending on what you are playing."

¶ The one on the left is a put and take spinner.  Transparent plastic top.  It calls itself "Whirl-E-Gig, Spin Game, Put-n-Take, copyright 1946, printed in USA."  The outside bottom says Pat. Pend.

¶ I don't know what the one on the right is.  It is broken some.  Could have yellow catalin center, black plastic outside.  Six decals on the 6 sides: 5 of spades through 10 of hearts.  Doesn't spin well at all.  The center piece (red catalin top and bottom) is loose, slides up and down and around, to no effect.

Per seller: Vintage Bakelite Top ... ..... The white and red parts are bakelite - The spin seperately from each other so the final outcome is always random - The blue handle is wood with some wear to the paint - The markings on the white part are P and T and on the red you have 0 1 4 A 2 3

"It is marked "Spinim" on top with a patent number.
The patent number is U.S. PATENT #1374243, and the patent can be seen by clicking here.  Once on that web page, you will see links for a drawing of the devise, abstract, description, claims, etc.  The patent was made to cover all tops that were bi-level -- two separate rotating parts.

"1" wide x 2 1/4" tall."

Went for $38. I own this top, by the way.  It is also in about the 5th picture on this page, along with other bakelite tops.

Interesting construction.   Tinny, and looks to be hollow on the inside.  I like it.

Also unusual is that there be vertical letters (eg, "T2") on the six sides instead of words (eg., "take two").  Usually the 6-sided put and takes have words on the six sides, and 8-sided put and takes have letters on the 8 sides.

Here the sides read: TA, P2, T1, P1, T2, AP

Small Cracker Jack "prize." Dealer describes it as, "6-Sided Put and Take Game Piece
Cracker Jack Toy Top    ca 1920
Approx 9/16 x 15/16" Pot Metal

"Reads: Take 1 - Put 2 - Take All - Put 1 - Take 2 - All Put"

Put and Take dice.  Dealer says, "They look like they are made of plastic but I've seen other ads that list them as Bakelite. I think they are plastic. These were made by a company called Elk Brand."

8-sided round Put & Take. Dealer describes it as, "Not sure of the metal it is made of, maybe lead or zinc plated brass. It is not magnetic. It measures approx. 9/16th"."

I could only see 6 sides, which read: ND, P3, P2, AP, T2, T3

Sewing Set Put and Take. This is just like the one I own and show in the third pictureon this page -- the red-colored one.  The dealer describes this ones as, "A vintage Put and take spinnning top game containing a sewing set. The main part holds the thimble and threads and the central shaft is a needle case. .. .... Measures just over 2 inches tall in total.. In good condition with minor wear for its age."

Saw this on eBay UK  June 2011, called vintage. Unusual for at least two reasons: (1) "left-handed", and (2) has both initials (eg., T2) and words (eg., All Put) on the sides.

eBay seller, in June 2011, offered six of these, and said, THEY ARE CRAFTED FROM COPPER & NICKLE....SIZE: 1 1/8" TALL ... WEIGHT:   .18  oz  EACH ... CONDITION: VERY GOOD.  THEY HAVE A NICE AGED PATINA. THE LETTERS AND NUMBERS HAVE BEEN STAMPED INTO THE NICKLE METAL AND THEN PAINTED. ...
SPINS: EASILY...THEY SPIN ENDLESSLY WITH LITTLE EFFORT OR SKILL! ... HANDLE: HAS A LONG TAPERED HANDLE ... THE LETTERS/NUMBERS ARE ON THE 8 SIDES AND READ AS FOLLOWS; T1,P4,*,T3,P1,T2,O,P3."

Wow, the lot of six of them went for $200 (12 bids)! (I bid $62!)

Cracker Jack-type toy.  Dealer describes it as: "Tin Put and Take Spinning Top, 1 ½ inch diameter, lithographed tin with wood spinner, marked “Kiddies Toodle Top, Pat. Applied For”, probably US made, probably early 1900’s [?], good condition with minor wear to the lithography, early toy gambling device with values on each flattened section, could even possibly be Cracker Jack... ."

Hand-held pocket advertising "dexterity game" or spinning game of chance.  Went for $46 on eBay, Jan 2011.  Dealer described it as: "A rare collectible, an early Studebaker advertising disc  with a game of put and take on the reverse. It measures about 2 inches across and has age spots on the front and staining on the paper put and take game which is covered with celluloid.  As you can see from the photo, it was given by the Doan Motor Company, Toledo, Ohio."

Genuine African Elephant Ivory chip put-and-take set. Dealer selling this says: "Here's a RARE & ORIGINAL late 19th century "Put & Take" spinner gambling game in its original plain black-textured-paper-covered cardboard box with a hinged lid.   The small box measures approximately 3 inches x 2 inches. ... The original 8-sided brass top or spinner with numbers, letters, and a red star, and the original folded instruction paper on how to play "Put & Take". . ... Between 150 and 200 original thin, square-shaped REAL IVORY playing chips that measure approximately 7/16 inches x 7/16 inches.   There are 4 different colored chips (red, white, purple, and orange).

Sold to me as a Put and Take set for $95, Julu 2011.  No printing or mfg mark on item.  Closed leather container is 4" x 3" x 1-1/4." I big selling point is that the small rectangular chips are ivory!  There is a large ivory piece in the center; for what purpose?

Prize.  Looks to be under 2 centermeters (i.e., less than an inch).  Probably a prize, like in a Cracker Jack package.  Was listed on eBay by a UK seller.  He said, "You are being offered a metal Put & Take 'spinner'. ... It was found in a box amongst a lot of stuff from the 1930's so I am presuming it is from that era. You will know better!"

1-1/2 inch.

Mechanical Pencil Transformer Put and Take.  The seller on eBay put it this way: "The  scan shows this "mechanical pencil" and all of the features that come in it! There is a "PUT & TAKE" * COMPASS * DICE hidden inside * plus a mechanical pencil that does work when filled with lead. How long would a boy keep this in grade school? If the teacher didn't take it away, someone else would! Closed and useable as a pencil, it is 7" long. Apart, see how it will break down to use and possibly make some money!! No age, but my guess is 1930's to the late 1940's. No TV yet, and people had more time to play "games"."  I bought this for about $30 total.  Great buy.

This neat plastic Put and Take I found on ARJAN VERWEIJ's web page.

"Vintage/Antique Put & Take pocket gambling spinning top game - Heavy duty Plastic ... ..  8 sided spinner with Take All; Take 1; Put 2; Take 3; All Put; Put 1; Take 2; Put 3," per eBay seller.

"ZINGO GIVE AND TAKE SPINNER GAME MADE BY UNIQUE ITEMS CO. NEW YORK NY. IT IS ACRYLIC AND BRASS. ... IT IS ABOUT 1 AND 3/4 INCHES IN DIAMETER. THE BRASS ARROW IS VERY STURDY AND WORKS GREAT," per eBay seller.

Very unusual material.  Never saw one like this before -- spotted on eBay, Jan 2012, US seller. Surely not ivory.

Per seller: "An original, used, 1 1/8" tall X 9/16" wide 8 sided, IVORY LOOKING perhaps CELLULOID SPIN TOP (I don't know).  It seems to be quite old.  The sides have the following inscriptions: a circle opposite of a star, a "P" over a "3," a "T" over a "1," a "P" over a "4," a "T" over a "3," a "P" over a "1," and a "T" over a "2." "


"Wobble," boxed put and take.  No name of maker or country.  The instructions have a picture of the spinner (diamond instead of a star for the 'take all" outcome), so I am convinced that I have the original put and take for the box.

Two interesting features of the spinner:
¶ the 4 take sides are in red; the 4 put sides are in black.
¶ instead of a star for "take all," there is a diamond.

Rustop Game Put and Take with Put and Take Poem!.  Seller says, "1920's Game  directions are printed on the top of the box lid in the form of a poem:
"RUSTOP GAME
Ten counters start you on the play,
"P", is for "Put", and "T", "Take away",
Who takes the "Star", the winner will be,
For he takes all you've put in, you see!

"Box is illustrated with an Art Deco Style floral typical of 1920's cards and stationary. Dice may not be original to the game since the poem does not mention them.  Box has darkened with age. Dreidel and tokens show no wear. Dice have scuffs and rubs.  .... Box measures 2 1/2" x 3 1/2""... Side of box says, "Rust Craft, Boston."

I bid $53 for this, was surprised that it went for $97. Why?  Is Rustop or Rust Craft a desirable collectible?
I suspect  it is: "Fred Rust opened his Book and Craft Shop in Kansas City in 1906. ... The Rusts' moved to Boston from Kansas City in 1913 opening the Rust Craft Company. Mainly in the greeting card business, this greeting card company evolved into one of the largest in the United States. After the move to Boston it produced greeting cards, puzzles, book marks, books, postcards, book plates, etc. I have even seen fruit jar labels by this company."

Very large spinner, 2 inches long!  I saw this on the Netherlands eBay web site.  The two smaller ones are shown for size comparison purposes.

The seller describes it as, "A nice vintage Put and Take Teetotum Gambling Dice ... with various odds on the six sides ... Length approx 5 cm ... Width approx 2.5 cm."

The six sides, in no particular order: put 1, put 2, all put, take 1, take 2, take all.

"STERLING SILVER HOLLOW CHARM PENDANT PUT AND TAKE," per UK seller, who adds, "A LOVELY SILVER CHARM WHICH WILL BE A GREAT ADDITION TO A CHARM BRACELET OR MAYBE USED AS A PENDANT ON A NECKLACE."


JOHNNY DUNN'S ORIGINAL JAZZ HOUNDS - PUT AND TAKE / MOANFUL BLUES, Columbia A3579.

This classic by Johnny Dunn was recorded in 1922. .. .... Speed:     78 RPM .. .....Record Size:     10"



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